I would like to forward an interesting reading about why rewards should have bonus gear based on damaged dealt more than ranking.https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23731710-300-the-inequality-delusion-why-weve-got-the-wealth-gap-all-wrong/TL;DR: most players accept unfair equality. A players who carry his guild by doing 12M damage in Sith raid should receive more rewards than someone who does 0. But a players who deal 11.9M damage in the same raid should receive equivalent rewards and not a full box less. This also applies Tor Rancor who everyone who solos it should receive an additional box.

No... People who get the top rewards usually cherry pick the easy phases to get those monster scores. Whle the people grinding the hard phases get less rewards and actually do all the work.

No thanx. The runner up in an olympic marathon only gets a silver medal disregarding wether he's trailing by 10 minutes or only 10/100.

I think the original idea in this thread is a fantastic one. In fact, I just posted this in another location before I found this thread: “Has the idea of grouping STR rewards based on ranges of total damage done, rather than the current 1-2-3-style ranking, been considered? Meaning: if you score between X and Y million, you get this reward; between Y and Z million, that reward; etc.... It seems that keeping people motivated to participate in the STR would benefit from that sort of payout structure, and provide more guild cohesion leading to happier and thus more active players.And the payouts, even at tiers below heroic, should be better than the payouts of the HAAT, simply because the STR is a much more difficult raid. I think it would increase guild participation (and hence provide more incentive to spend crystals a bit more freely... wink, wink) if the rewards were in proportion to the difficulty as compared to all the raids.”I honestly believe the key to the reward system is to provide goals for the guild members to attain. This will enhance guild cooperation, and hopefully increase guild activity given that this raid is the “never-ending” raid — there’s always one up due to its difficulty. This structure gives the best reward to the best players, but also recognizes that the randomness of the game shouldn’t necessarily separate two otherwise equivalent players. I think it would increase crystal usage, because players would get information on what they need to succeed from their other guildies, and see that next reward level as an enticement.

The above is based on the concept that team cohesion is the most important aspect. Competition within the team is important to continually imorove the team, but that competition shouldn’t be competition that divides the players from one another, it should unify them.

Well, CG tends to think otherwise, hence the change and revert of the reward structure. There is something not quite right, and these remarks are just ideas for the Devs to look over. Perhaps our ideas will plant a seed that they will cultivate into a muture reward system that strikes the appropriate balance. Right now, our guild is hemorrhaging activity in this raid due to the disproportionate time versus reward.

Argument for bonus rewards based on damage

24 Replies

dkreknumone
7 years ago
No... People who get the top rewards usually cherry pick the easy phases to get those monster scores. Whle the people grinding the hard phases get less rewards and actually do all the work.
Waquira
7 years ago
No thanx. The runner up in an olympic marathon only gets a silver medal disregarding wether he's trailing by 10 minutes or only 10/100.
Neo2551
7 years ago
"Skynibbler;c-1524068" wrote:
Makes sense but...

This game isn’t made for US.

The game is solely made for the makers of the game to make MONEY. That’s fine they’re a business.

Any extra gear would hurt the bottom line. That’s why they won’t add a practice mode. That’s why the shard shop is full of gear that you have thousands of and rarely has stuff you need. They know the longer you’re in the app, the more money they will make.

Please do not think for a second they care about you, me, anyone here. They really do not even care about Star Wars, it’s just a vehicle to make money.

I honestly think devs love their games and want to make a great product.
Neo2551
7 years ago
"Waqui;c-1524180" wrote:
No thanx. The runner up in an olympic marathon only gets a silver medal disregarding wether he's trailing by 10 minutes or only 10/100.

Agree. But all the runners from the Olympics gets compensated for just participating as well, as they are sponsored and supported by each of their respective federation.
Neo2551
7 years ago
"Waqui;c-1524180" wrote:
No thanx. The runner up in an olympic marathon only gets a silver medal disregarding wether he's trailing by 10 minutes or only 10/100.

And both who arrive first gets gold medals, in rancor logic, we would pick one to give the gold at random.
Sarcodino
7 years ago
"Dk_rek;c-1524059" wrote:
No... People who get the top rewards usually cherry pick the easy phases to get those monster scores. Whle the people grinding the hard phases get less rewards and actually do all the work.

In our guild STR Tier 4 last for 6 days... P1 2 days, P2 1, P3 1, P4 2... Its so hard to choose a phase when u have phases that last for more than a day...
As the forever 1st damage dealer in my guild (60kk, aginst 20-25kk for the second) i can say its not the way it works (at least for us), cuz i try to do all the damage i can in the hardest phases to make it more easy for the rest...
I have invested only 3 Zs for arena teams (zaul time ago, and 2 palpa now), all others went to raid teams to try to carry my guild along the diferent raids, instead of moving into a biggest guild, and i fell i sould get better rewards for all those effort...
Waquira
7 years ago
"Neo2551;c-1524232" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1524180" wrote:
No thanx. The runner up in an olympic marathon only gets a silver medal disregarding wether he's trailing by 10 minutes or only 10/100.

And both who arrive first gets gold medals, in rancor logic, we would pick one to give the gold at random.

And in this case, the one on 3rd place gets a bronze medal no matter wether he/she is trailing by a second or a day and a half.
Waquira
7 years ago
"Neo2551;d-166415" wrote:
This also applies Tor Rancor who everyone who solos it should receive an additional box.

If this is implemented, the contents of the boxes will have to be severely reduced in order to not flood the guild with gear. A better solution would be to equalize the prices, so that players with equal scores have all their rewards averaged. However, over a large number of raids it would result in the same amount of rewards as with the current system with randomized order.
bcarry82
7 years ago
Top damage dealers are still getting more compensation in the way of guild store currency. They’re only flattening the gear drop. I don’t understand how this is lost on a handful of strangely vocal people on this topic.

Also, referring to your article. Always remember that the US trails way behind solicalist Europeans countries on qualify of life index. (Health, happiness, vacation, all that fun stuff)
Neo2551
7 years ago
"Waqui;c-1524365" wrote:
"Neo2551;c-1524232" wrote:
"Waqui;c-1524180" wrote:
No thanx. The runner up in an olympic marathon only gets a silver medal disregarding wether he's trailing by 10 minutes or only 10/100.

And both who arrive first gets gold medals, in rancor logic, we would pick one to give the gold at random.

And in this case, the one on 3rd place gets a bronze medal no matter wether he/she is trailing by a second or a day and a half.

Anyway, we are talking about a guild event and not personal effort: it should be the guild vs the raid and not guildmates against each other. Rewards should be partly based on what each individual member contributes to.