Hey everyone,On Monday, July 4, we will be launching the next Assault Battle. These events are aimed at near-max level players (>=75). You may have already played the initial one, "Military Might". This one will have the following criteria: Unlocks at level 75 Two tiersTier 1 is tuned for level 78+, G7+, this is the "hard" difficultyTier 2 is tuned for level 81 (doable at 80), G9+, this is the "very hard" difficulty, unlocks when tier 1 is completedRequires Empire or Droid characters. No star requirements.Event Power: "Defend" - Gain 70% damage resistance for one turn and heal 15% of max hp. 2 turn cooldown. First time complete is 1 million credits, 10 Ewok Elder & Scout shards, 5 Chirpa & Teebo shards.Repeat completion will award ~50k credits, and 3 buckets of Ewok shards (one bucket all, one bucket Chirpa or Teebo, one bucket Elder or Scout)m a bucket of green salvage, a bucket of blue salvage, and a bucket of purple salvage (similar to Military Might). Achievement awards 10 Vader shards and 5000 ally coins. Complete tier 1 to earn the achievement.I am curious to know your thoughts about these events. Note that they repeat, so we do not necessarily expect high participation on the outset. I like the idea of difficult end-game content on rotation that people can spend downtime preparing for. This is the second one of these we will be running, so at this point people should generally understand them. What are your thoughts and opinions on these events?

Tier 2 rewards the same as Tier 1. That is, same first time complete and such. So another million credits and more Ewok shards. The whole "very hard" tier is an experiment. If we do more of these events they may have different rewards, such as an Omega or something else desirable.

Hey Cap, I really enjoy the class specific events, which force me to focus on underdeveloped parts of my roster. I found it very satisfying to put the time in to get a 7* Yoda on the second try and have enjoyed the other events that required a prolonged build commitment from me.I think we need more difficulty in the game. T6 raid was more fun than T7. The old GW matchmaking was more enjoyable for me. I don't think we should all be able to finish every event or be able to buy everything available in the game.And the rewards seem fine to me, but I don't refresh. I'm just a simple man with simple needs. A hot meal, a warm bed, and some Ewoks shards.

My feedback, in no particular order: I really liked what you did with the last event, with a couple of minor niggling details that I am betting you already adjusted for. The events are interesting, the special mechanics make it more than "just another grind" and they give us a reason to level up new characters. Adding the extra, hard difficulty is a great idea. For the empire event I had to farm a bunch of rebels from scratch and I got through it, but they weren't really close to maxed, so I could only imagine that people with maxed rebels found it boring. Players will whine that they can't do the harder difficulty. As long as people with the right teams can beat the hard mode, please ignore them. As others have said, we need challenge in the game. There is little right now. Shard rewards will always be useless for someone because they have them maxed. But ewoks will, I think, be well received because they are popular now for the raid and several take a long time to farm. Teebo and Chirpa are the easier farms of the 4 while Scout and Elder are the harder farms. My guess is most players would prefer the latter two not be in the same bucket, but you may have done that on purpose. 1M credits for first-time completion is good (not great, but good). Do these first-time completions reset each time the event returns? 50k for subsequent completions is an inadequate reward for high-level content. I may have to spend 10M credits to get my guys up to snuff. Even with other rewards, the ROI on this is pretty long. 50k is "in the noise". For cap-level content, please give us cap-level-appropriate credit rewards. If those who can do tier 2 are able to do both tiers (extra completions) then them having the same rewards is IMO fine. If you have to choose one or the other, I think the higher tier needs better rewards from the start. Okay, it's an experiment, so why not also experiment with higher rewards? Even just adding more of the current rewards would be something and it's not like that will break anything. How many completions/day and will refreshes be possible? I seem to recall for some reason that you couldn't refresh the empire event but I could be wrong. Gear rewards: these were highly disappointing to me and many others last time. Too few pieces of items that are mostly easy to get (challenges, shipments). This is an event. It should at least reward items that people have to farm. Green gear: In general, doesn't belong on a reward list for high-level content. But if it is going to be there, it should be items that high-level people need. I forget what the green item was last time, but I do remember I already had enough before the event to last me until the heat death of the universe. There are a few green items that most players are constantly short of because they are used in high-end recipes and aren't on nodes people commonly farm. Examples: Mark 1 Sienar Holo Projector, Mark 5 Blastech Weapon Mod, Mark 2 Laptop, Mark 2 Syringe, Mark 1 Stun Cuffs. These are all items used in high-end gear. Blue gear: Same. Please give us items we need, not junk we don't. Examples of good blue items: Mark 1 bacta gels, Mark 2 sienars, Mark 3 droid callers (people are activately complaining about these not being in the highest-tier challenge, this would get them off your collective backs a bit), Mark 5 power cells, Mark 6 power cells, Mark 3 detonators. These are the sorts of items people are always short on. I don't need Mark 4 armor mod salvage, I already have over 1,000. :) Purple gear: Same deal. We don't want purple Mark V laptops. We need stun guns and stun cuffs and mark 3 sienars and the like. I don't think omegas should be a reward from these sorts of events. Either those are there as a gate or they aren't. I greatly appreciate your interaction here and on Reddit about the events you work on.

I think in addition to looking directly at the event there is another issue. Since you cancelled the Kit Fisto event, people are quite worried that other events, "if received poorly" will also be cancelled. For instance, regarding bounty hunters, I heard from many. Ok, if I invest 5 million in this event. I get 1 million today. But what if it gets cancelled because no one else has bounty hunters. Then as the F2P player I am screwed.The same of course holds for this event. I think you need to be very clear that this is a repeating event that will not go away.As for the event itself, 1 million is a low payout for the amount of investment this will take for many players. I think most have a good RG and a good IG-86. After that, it will be spotty. Some will have IG-88. But that is probably about it. Vader has been useless so far, so most have not invested in him. Therefore, this would be a really high investment event for a lot of F2P players. This is especially the case if it is like the last event, where it is all or nothing. Beating 8 rooms with characters you have not invested in is a tall order.Therefore, the bottom line is that if you expect people to invest heavily in these characters, they need to be assured that this event is not going away. The Kit Fisto cancellation set a really bad and frightening precedent that you will have to work hard to smooth over.

I really like the idea of these themed events. I hope they continue over time. They are a great way to reward Vader shards to players and bring relevancy to heroes we may not use as often. Giving the events a second tier with a higher difficulty will satisfy heavier pay players that thirst for a challenge. Providing the achievement at the lower level is a great tradeoff for the lower geared / leveled players. This seems like a good balanced approach. Much was already covered above so I won't repeat it, but I do want to call out Tiny's feedback concerning cancelling an event. I have seen a good deal of trepidation to build Scoundrels by players as a result of the Kit Fisto event. I think it also set a bit of a bad precedent because now every event is getting threads looking for comments as if it's up for judgement - so it gives the rage bunnies on the forum incentive to flame and try to drum up a mass of trolls if they don't like it. Some statement in general on these events about longevity would be good.

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davidbeatti1990
9 years ago
Yes thanks for the information @CapGaSP this type of information is useful when considering threads. Also curious to know why previously done events can't be set on a time loop to make things easier for you guys.

Because the current system sounds like a nightmare especially over time as the game slowly dies out.
CapGaSP
9 years ago
Generally previously run events aren't immediately re-run until they're analyzed. Each event has a goal. In the case of Assault Battles, those are to provide fun challenging content for "elder" players (lvl 75+). After we run an event I sit down with the product manager and a data scientist and look at how it performed. Most of the time they require tweaks to meet their goals before being rerun. That takes time, and sometimes these analysis ("post mortem") meetings don't happen right away (everyone is very busy, after all, and there's a lot of data to analyze from a game this size). For example, one of the problems I identified with the first two ABs I ran was that they simply took too long. I don't want to add stuff that you feel like you need to spend an hour playing every day for 7 days. So for the rerun of ABs one of the things I'm potentially looking is is less free plays, but compacting the rewards more so that you get around the same for less time spent. Then that work has to be scheduled, and I have a lot of other things I'm working on. And it all gets prioritized and assigned into an update.
J0K3R_RtP
9 years ago
This was very insightful. Thank u for sharing that.
MistPassiert
9 years ago
This event was far easier than the Empire event. I was able to clear it rather easily with a gear 8 47 (lead), 88, 86, and Vader, all 7* except Vader (6*) with gear 10 7* Palpatine. Most were full modded, though not all, and most mods were only Mk 1-2. Only a handful of abilities were omega. I was expecting a brawl, but cleared it with ease. Rather unexpected.

I like @Aero 's suggested changes. Most of all the TM gain on death of allies for the elders. Perhaps for the next run around?

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