Can we get an update on zFinn, C3PO and HSTR?

"Vondy;c-1740882" wrote:
For what it’s worth, Holdo is phenomenal with Finn, Poe, RT, and RP in GA/TW. Aoe daze, the ability to trigger exposes behind taunt, health/protection recovery, and an auxiliary taunt are all great attributes for her there. She’s also quite useful with Rey.

I run Amilyn in the arena.

She is the best tank for JTR, though it's a narrow thing.

That the lack of engagement with expose mechanics is to the detriment of Amilyn and Rose does not mean the meme that they suck. Rose in particular is hurt because she relies on lots of enemies being exposed at the same time, and Resistance doesn't really get many good ways to do that. Get lucky with a multicrit AoE under JTR or use Poe. But they can't really put more expose proccers in the faction without breaking Finn, which is why the only expose proccer Resistance got with the VIII set was nested in a lead.

Finn creates a design complication by his existence that makes expanding the faction going forward a problem unless a new lead gives Resistance an alternate gimmick besides Expose manipulation.

"YaeVizsla;c-1741019" wrote:

"Vondy;c-1740882" wrote:
For what it’s worth, Holdo is phenomenal with Finn, Poe, RT, and RP in GA/TW. Aoe daze, the ability to trigger exposes behind taunt, health/protection recovery, and an auxiliary taunt are all great attributes for her there. She’s also quite useful with Rey.

I run Amilyn in the arena.

She is the best tank for JTR, though it's a narrow thing.

That the lack of engagement with expose mechanics is to the detriment of Amilyn and Rose does not mean the meme that they suck. Rose in particular is hurt because she relies on lots of enemies being exposed at the same time, and Resistance doesn't really get many good ways to do that. Get lucky with a multicrit AoE under JTR or use Poe. But they can't really put more expose proccers in the faction without breaking Finn, which is why the only expose proccer Resistance got with the VIII set was nested in a lead.

Finn creates a design complication by his existence that makes expanding the faction going forward a problem unless a new lead gives Resistance an alternate gimmick besides Expose manipulation.

No disagreement there. Just a PSA as a resistance fan for those trying to figure out how to use them in PvP :)

Maybe they should just ban Finn and C-3PO from HSTR. That would solve the problem, and it be fun, and playable.

"UncleOnceler;c-1740898" wrote:

"Woodroward;c-1738994" wrote:

"Sirlagzalott;d-191898" wrote:
Per the communication prior to the holidays we know there is a change coming to either Phase 3 of HSTR or the interaction between zFinn and C3PO (aka nerf). It'd be really helpful to know the direction of this change so folks can adjust and invest resources accordingly. Can we get more details? If these are not available, can we get an updated timeline?

They've already said they will nerf it sometime this year. They'll give us the details around when they do it. Why do you need to rush them?

and FYI, they almost certainly won't nerf 3p0. If they nerf Finn, it won't hurt his usefulness running regular resistance at all.

In other words, whatever "plan" they come up with will affect only the team that can solo p3. You don't have to hold back on leveling or gearing any of them as they are all valuable in their niche.

In other words, there's no real need to know what their plans are, or to rush them to give them to us. Just go on about your business and don't plan on making that one team.

Wow thanks for the chastizment and complete speculation. The "why" is in the post, so people can plan and invest wisely (i.e. in c3po and supporting characters or not).

CG has a history of massively overdoing "fixes", so your "will only affect one team", is a guess, and maybe a bad one.

You have over 3000 posts. I hope they aren't all equally useless.

It's not my fault you're impatient. I told you why patience is best here.
It's not a guess, it's what they specifically said in their post (though I am paraphrasing here), that they were going to be very methodical on this one so as to make sure they didn't ruin other fun things.

To put it another way: they said they were going to take their time to make sure that the fix they come up with has minimum impact outside the raid.

They said they were looking at Finn's leader and Traya's mechanics. Stacking resistance won't affect any other p3 team if they implement it. Finn's leader would at most be changed so that only exposes from resistance trigger the leader. How many other Finn lead teams rely on expose from non-resistance? I don't know of any.

SO.... it's not a guess. It will only affect this team. There you go.

If you can't take sound advice, that's not my issue.

"YaeVizsla;c-1741019" wrote:
Finn creates a design complication by his existence that makes expanding the faction going forward a problem unless a new lead gives Resistance an alternate gimmick besides Expose manipulation.

Yeah. JTR's expose mechanic is more balanced, and I think another reason why JTR has long cooldowns is to prevent running her under Finn lead, and Its not just the resistance, any other toon with expose and the first thought is to sub it in a Resistance team such as Nest and C3PO -- being the problem because of this

Again, its just my speculation but I think the future of Resistance faction is damaged by forcing them to have longer cooldowns and forcing them to interact with expose via leader abilities while not inflicting exposes themselves in their own kit and the only remedy is to change zeta Finn

"kaz8772;c-1741075" wrote:
Maybe they should just ban Finn and C-3PO from HSTR. That would solve the problem, and it be fun, and playable.

That's ridiculous. C-3PO is fun to use in multiple phases and can be used multiple times like Hoda.

I am more than happy to auto p3 for now. Please take your time, or dont fix it at all.

Of course with all this said I cannot use C3PO in either tank or Sith anymore, I complete the run and then it absolutely refuses to post no matter cell or wifi, signal is super strong. And yes I've reported this on Answers HQ.

Anyone else having this happen?

"TVF;c-1741161" wrote:
Anyone else having this happen?

Ran the tank raid earlier today and had no issues. Guild mate had the issue (connection error with a giant restart button) but his tank solo run still got posted

"TVF;c-1741161" wrote:
Of course with all this said I cannot use C3PO in either tank or Sith anymore, I complete the run and then it absolutely refuses to post no matter cell or wifi, signal is super strong. And yes I've reported this on Answers HQ.

Anyone else having this happen?

I think the game counts the buffs/debuffs but doesn’t show them. These teams cause a TON of lag. It always posts, but I sometimes have to wait 30 seconds for it to go through. Reminds me of the stacking bonds on Traya that used to lag the game.