Vi are a 290m GP guild trying the Challenge tier Rancor raid. We are likely a bit too weak to beat it yet, but we were trying, having fun and would likely get stuck somewhere in phase 3. Which is fine. We would try it, practice and return next time with a chance to beat it.Then disaster struck. A member had a mental blackout and took Papa Pig down below 80%. That crippled our few Rey teams from 14-18% down to 3-4% effectively making it game over. One mistake, from one player. Game over. That is not fun. Games that isn't fun stop being played. Fast.

If LSGTB is anything to go by, they are not changing the challenge tier. CG’s official stance: Git gud.

"TroelsVastrup;c-2203865" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2203858" wrote:If LSGTB is anything to go by, they are not changing the challenge tier. You are likely right, but the difference is, that LSGTB is just absurdly hard, this raid is as well AND one mistake can ruin everything. For the entire guild. That is a first.I agree with you, it’s just CG doesn’t listen to the community. LSGTB is a prime example of this.

"DarjeloSalas;c-2203875" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2203873" wrote:"TroelsVastrup;c-2203865" wrote:"Iy4oy4s;c-2203858" wrote:If LSGTB is anything to go by, they are not changing the challenge tier. You are likely right, but the difference is, that LSGTB is just absurdly hard, this raid is as well AND one mistake can ruin everything. For the entire guild. That is a first.I agree with you, it’s just CG doesn’t listen to the community. LSGTB is a prime example of this. LSTB is fine now. Admittedly that’s 1 year after release, which doesn’t bode well for the Challenge Pit. LSGTB is not fine now. Content that can’t be 100% completed a year after release is a failure. We should have had both GTB’s mastered by now with a new TB being announced last month and playable right now that is stupid hard. Lack of content is one of the main complaints of this game. This is one of the reasons that I don’t think that CG is focused on this game anymore. It’s in “minimal work until the profits run dry” Problem is that too many people keep spending, so it’s gives them little motivation to deliver fresh content routinely. This year is a prime example of this mindset. Extremely little new content released, low amount of new toons, yet the money keeps rolling in. So I believe that 2021 will be no different. We will get this new “conquest” mode, which sounds fun, some new toons and ships sprinkled in and nothing else new until at least July/August 2021. That is when they will release the new raid, and nothing again until December 2021 where we could get a new TB. Of course I could be way off base, and I hope I am, but the writing is on the wall.

Agreed. The "new mechanic" (i.e. the bump at 20%) is like giving all 50 guild members access to the "ABANDON" button. Horrid design.

We have the same thing happen again, one run ruins it all (I made the mistake btw).I think it is the worst design I have yet seen in this game

Challence Tier Rancor - The design flaw to end all design flaws

Iy4oy4s
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
If LSGTB is anything to go by, they are not changing the challenge tier.

CG’s official stance: Git gud.
Iy4oy4s
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"TroelsVastrup;c-2203865" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2203858" wrote:
If LSGTB is anything to go by, they are not changing the challenge tier.

You are likely right, but the difference is, that LSGTB is just absurdly hard, this raid is as well AND one mistake can ruin everything. For the entire guild. That is a first.

I agree with you, it’s just CG doesn’t listen to the community. LSGTB is a prime example of this.
Iy4oy4s
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
"DarjeloSalas;c-2203875" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2203873" wrote:
"TroelsVastrup;c-2203865" wrote:
"Iy4oy4s;c-2203858" wrote:
If LSGTB is anything to go by, they are not changing the challenge tier.

You are likely right, but the difference is, that LSGTB is just absurdly hard, this raid is as well AND one mistake can ruin everything. For the entire guild. That is a first.

I agree with you, it’s just CG doesn’t listen to the community. LSGTB is a prime example of this.

LSTB is fine now.

Admittedly that’s 1 year after release, which doesn’t bode well for the Challenge Pit.

LSGTB is not fine now. Content that can’t be 100% completed a year after release is a failure. We should have had both GTB’s mastered by now with a new TB being announced last month and playable right now that is stupid hard.

Lack of content is one of the main complaints of this game. This is one of the reasons that I don’t think that CG is focused on this game anymore. It’s in “minimal work until the profits run dry” Problem is that too many people keep spending, so it’s gives them little motivation to deliver fresh content routinely.

This year is a prime example of this mindset. Extremely little new content released, low amount of new toons, yet the money keeps rolling in. So I believe that 2021 will be no different. We will get this new “conquest” mode, which sounds fun, some new toons and ships sprinkled in and nothing else new until at least July/August 2021. That is when they will release the new raid, and nothing again until December 2021 where we could get a new TB.

Of course I could be way off base, and I hope I am, but the writing is on the wall.
Nikoms565
4 years ago
Agreed. The "new mechanic" (i.e. the bump at 20%) is like giving all 50 guild members access to the "ABANDON" button. Horrid design.
DK_Raid_Violator
Seasoned Newcomer
4 years ago
We have the same thing happen again, one run ruins it all (I made the mistake btw).
I think it is the worst design I have yet seen in this game
TheSithVicious
4 years ago
I’m curious how they managed to test this raid with only one laptop
ZanirN7S
Rising Traveler
4 years ago
"SithVicious;c-2206951" wrote:
I’m curious how they managed to test this raid with only one laptop

Bold of you to assume they tested it
huskeraj
4 years ago
It's really what all this comes down to in the end.. one person should not be able to mess up an entire raid run for a guild. That's ridiculous.

I agree with the people saying they probably won't change it because over time perhaps new characters and relic levels will make it easier. That's fine if that's what it is... but the mechanics need to change or it needs to be more flexible for officer management. Let officers pause the raid to prevent mis-posts or add a "post damages" button after you die so you don't need airplane mode for all members. Anything to prevent one person accidentally costing the entire guild the whole raid and flushing 180K worth of tickets down the drain. Come to think of it... if they aren't going to make life easier maybe they should refund the 180K tickets if you abandon the raid so that at the very least you can re-try the attempt.

On pit raid days, my entire day is basically wasted trying to coordinate runs - which we have to do in split segments (one morning and one night) because we are a spread out guild as far as time zones go. P.I.T.F.A. and unreasonable for a mobile game in my opinion.
LendersQuiz
Rising Rookie
4 years ago
Something simple that could be added is adding a reset function. Make the reset function limited to 1-3 times. Keep the clock the same, just reset the raid.

I agree with the OP, if one person makes a single mistake, that's it, the raid is over

Lost a battle in TB? You may miss a star but the whole TB isn't over. You didn't take out a turret on the tank? The whole raid isn't done. It took you 3 battles in TW to beat a team? TW isn't over.

No other guild wide game mode in this game is like that.
irish570team
4 years ago
The raid itself isn’t bad, just the need to have so many people on at the exact same time. Just terrible...

Remove the 20% ramp up and raid is fixed.