Change in TB operations

"StarSon;c-2451834" wrote:

It's not neutral for the top, and doesn't hurt "the rest." It's actually quite helpful for most guilds, because you no longer have to choose ops over missions, or preload to maximize ops because of this character.

I find this to be the best argument made yet. Was fence-sitting before I read it.

It doesn't matter if that would be the extreme edge case. It's a case that CG needs to consider when making a change like this.

Just because you don't like their final decision doesn't mean that they didn't consider the extreme edge cases. I mean, if we're just talking about what's possible without actually caring about the data you dismissed (about 44k TCs in the game), then it's possible that there's a guild with 50 players who have 0 Sidious shards.

That would make as much sense as a guild playing ROTE with 0 shards of TC among its 50 players.

Again, no one is saying that it's impossible for one guild to be hurt more than another by this choice. But a different guild could be hurt more by choosing Sidious than by choosing TC. I mean it's POSSIBLE. So why care about data?

If you have 3 g12s out of 50 players, then **at most** you're going to miss 6/6 one time because of this change -- at least if you care about filling platoons and everyone is chipping in for guild success.

Statistically there are enough guilds that someone's TB officer is going to fail to coordinate the switch because they get in a car wreck or go through chemo or lose to the Patriots or some other catastrophe that seems impossible to happen in the next week to folks living their daily lives. Will some guild miss 6/6 because of this? Sure. You have enough guilds something is going to go wacky in a few of them.

But unlike you, I think that CG did look at the data and did consider the effects of choosing Chieftan. They just made a decision that you don't like.

I'm still crossing my fingers that your alliance guilds who were getting 6/6 before will get 6/6 again. But if they don't, 2x Raid is enough to go from zero mats to 40 ECs and 10 Zinbiddles. That takes at most 1.5 weeks. The other resources are likewise available in 1.5 weeks. If a 6/6 guild misses it this time, they'll make it the time after.

"MasterSeedy;c-2451839" wrote:

It doesn't matter if that would be the extreme edge case. It's a case that CG needs to consider when making a change like this.

Statistically there are enough guilds that someone's TB officer is going to fail to coordinate the switch because they get in a car wreck or go through chemo or lose to the Patriots or some other catastrophe that seems impossible to happen in the next week to folks living their daily lives.

Hahaha. Like the Steelers did!

Remember everyone, terrible towels are for wiping, not waving.

"iMalevolence;c-2451814" wrote:

"OmegaIV;c-2451812" wrote:
I understand the stress behind it, but if your guild is capable of 6/6 on Tatooine, then your guild is more than capable to r7 one character between now and next Wednesday.

It's not like they're replacing the character with Paz or Krang.

lol, no. Worst case scenario is that you're asking someone in a guild to farm 330 shards of a non accelerated character on a hard node. If no one in the guild had already started working on Chieftain, it'd be 50 days doing 20 sims/day on that node.

Even going from 6* to 7* with 20 sims/day, it's still 15 days and puts it outside of this upcoming TB. And refreshing a node for 20 sims/day is an unreasonable ask.

Since I ran TB for 5 years, (the last one was my first as just a member - it was glorious btw) I feel I can respond to this with experience and confidence.

The idea that a guild capable of going 6/6 in any r7 zone not being able to relic up a Tusken Chieftain is ludicrous. We JUST had a raid that featured tuskens as one of the specialty teams and we would be hard pressed to find any guild capable of 6/6 r7 zones without one player that relic’s a tusken chief.

And the fact that you are just so adamant that this is a travesty of justice is beyond comprehension.

ONE r7 character will not be the difference between getting a star or not. It’ll be a member not deploying, not dropping a platoon or not doing missions waaaay before the guild being short one character because “cG iS oUt tO gEt uS”.

C’mon man. The exception or the extreme is not the rule. Read that again. And give it a rest already.