Changes to Asajj/Acolyte Strategy in STR MEGA THREAD

"SoonerJBD;c-1608978" wrote:

"Guest;c-1608974" wrote:

"Vinny_Vader_Vedi;c-1608970" wrote:

"Guest;c-1608966" wrote:
I'm not sure any of you understand what's the problem in here. The thing is not about Isolate on raid boss but about the combination of it with Assaj's lead and Acolyte unique and basic. All of that combine make her go to 100% health, lose it all because of bonds of weakness, gain hit all on a second heal and lose it all again. Which make her gain 50% TM two times so that she's in a loop.

Would it be more prudent and beneficial to change the ability on acolyte then?

No, I would say that the change must occur on Assaj's lead but so that this effect can only happen once per turn. That is the only change that should be made and that wouldn't create an impact on the NS in P4.

Except you could also fix the issue by leaving Nightsisters alone entirely and just changing the buff allies get when they hit an Isolated raid boss. Nightsisters aren’t overtuned and don’t need fixing.

Since this change won't change anything to you, I don't see the point of not having it done while Isolate might be useful this way on other part of the raid(s). Plus, having a 7* Traya is actually very hard for people so I wouldn't see a nerf happen to her.

And yes, I know rewards sucks since I get them as well.

It really seems like every time someone finds a way to use older toons to beat the raid. They nerf the team/mechanic. And then they add all these new toons that have brand new fancy buffs and powers, that cost money.

At this point people just need to stop sharing what works in the HSTR haha. We are a 90m guild growing, and we do T4 cuz it’s just tedious and boring till more people get JTR to even attempt heroic. Also the rewards are terrible. At least put the GET back in.

Without acolyte... attack 50% TM... Without her there is likely a healer ready now... heal, attack... 50% TM... when I run Zombie/Talia/Acolyte or Talzin, there are lots of times they get the boost twice in a turn.

Guess I'll have to break out lobot and see if something can be done there, I will have to spend ages farming him but I'll take the hit for the community.

Could be worse guys, we could be playing Marvel Strike Force. CG knows it too.

Infinite turn supply and demand is only possible with Traya. Why is NS mentioned only? it does not form an infinite turn by NS self. The development team got the wrong direction.A lot of users have grown NS for a long time.
Do not fill in the lack of design with the pain of the user.

"Guest;c-1608987" wrote:

"SoonerJBD;c-1608978" wrote:

"Guest;c-1608974" wrote:

"Vinny_Vader_Vedi;c-1608970" wrote:

"Guest;c-1608966" wrote:
I'm not sure any of you understand what's the problem in here. The thing is not about Isolate on raid boss but about the combination of it with Assaj's lead and Acolyte unique and basic. All of that combine make her go to 100% health, lose it all because of bonds of weakness, gain hit all on a second heal and lose it all again. Which make her gain 50% TM two times so that she's in a loop.

Would it be more prudent and beneficial to change the ability on acolyte then?

No, I would say that the change must occur on Assaj's lead but so that this effect can only happen once per turn. That is the only change that should be made and that wouldn't create an impact on the NS in P4.

Except you could also fix the issue by leaving Nightsisters alone entirely and just changing the buff allies get when they hit an Isolated raid boss. Nightsisters aren’t overtuned and don’t need fixing.

Since this change won't change anything to you, I don't see the point of not having it done while Isolate might be useful this way on other part of the raid(s). Plus, having a 7* Traya is actually very hard for people so I wouldn't see a nerf happen to her.

And yes, I know rewards sucks since I get them as well.

I have Traya and will have her at seven stars soon. I wouldn’t run this team because I want my guildmates to get more shards once I get Traya maxed. You don’t know how such a change might affect other teams or other game modes until they actually implement it, and that is the big worry here. Their track record when fixing these things suggests they will find a way to mess up a squad many of us like playing and that is essential for this raid when there is a simpler fix available.

Isolate can continue to be useful if you simply change the buff it gives from health steal up to something like crit damage up or armor penetration up or any number of other effects. And no risk of messing up an established team and causing the forums to explode with renewed outrage and indignation.

"Ender22;c-1608967" wrote:

"Fives5555;c-1608963" wrote:
This is a perfect example of the devs acting like the kid that turns off the video game right before they lose. We find a flaw in their bogus raid and they’re like “we’ll show them by nerfing everything”. Just them showing their true colors

More like them saving the integrity of a game that is too difficult/complicated to predict every detail of.

If they wanted to save the integrity of the game then they would’ve been better at communicating with community, release more legendary events/characters we want and not sacrifice customer happiness for making quick money and making everyone upset

Either adjust what isolate does to raid bosses, or make them immune to isolate entirely. This doesn't seem like a NS issue to me.

I use Ventress lead in arena. Now I have to sit back and pray they don't nerf it. All because Traya is creating a infinite loop in a boring raid. Smh

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"RunchGwar;c-1608945" wrote:
If CG changes the way Isolate works with Raid Bosses, fine. If they nerf Asajj's leadership so that Nightsisters as a whole get nerfed for P4? There will be fire and brimstone.

Is it ok to change that though? To nerf the hardest character in the game to acquire? It was established months ago what Traya does to raid bosses. Now you make her less valuable after millions have spent time and effort to get her?

"Bulldog1205;c-1609000" wrote:
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"RunchGwar;c-1608945" wrote:
If CG changes the way Isolate works with Raid Bosses, fine. If they nerf Asajj's leadership so that Nightsisters as a whole get nerfed for P4? There will be fire and brimstone.

Is it ok to change that though? To nerf the hardest character in the game? It was established months ago what Traya does to raid bosses. Now you make her less valuable after millions have spent time and effort to get her?

It’s not a nerf if you just change the buff it gives. Not like health steal up was some crucial buff that everyone was hotly anticipating.