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“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0sR--W0tfQ” - turned purple, evidence of the crystal resisting the corruption.
“Irreparable? Both of them became stronger Jedi. Cere was just as powerful as a dark-side amped Cal. Neither of them turned, even for a moment, especially Cere. Tempted, yes - but their connections weren't damaged at all. You're confusing their dark side moments with order 66 - Cere cut herself off as punishment, Cal cut himself off for survival and necessity, both of which are wildly different from Torbin, who felt so guilty about being an accomplice to the deaths of the entire family of two small children, and was already in a state of self-remorse and penance that had been eating away at him for 16 years.” - I said their relationship to the force was affected, not strength. And this is absolutely true as we see cere become a monk, and cal slowly becoming darker and darker in Jedi: Survivor.
“Vernestra was a prodigy and an experienced Jedi master. It's not like she was some greenhorn padawan.” - talented? Perhaps. Talented enough in dark skills to pull off the bold-faced deception of one of the greatest force users of the era? I don’t think so. And, that’s only if she didn’t straight up tell him, which again, is heavily implied.
“Do you think Anakin had already been feeling the dark side when he killed the Tuskens? He lost control in a moment of rage. Losing control with your lightsaber off and losing control with your lightsaber on can lead to very different outcomes, which is why it's better to leave it off if possible. It. Removes. Temptation.” - yes I absolutely do think he was feeling the dark side, not just in that moment but in the past as well seen in TCW. He used his anger and grief to carry out mass murder including the deaths of a multitude of innocents. Do you not think that was the dark side?
The reality of the situation is that no possible explanation will hold up under logical or lore based scrutiny.
How did the crystal bleed? The writers thought it would look cool and represent her emotions so they disregarded lore. Why did the Jedi commit? The writers thought it would build suspense for the eventual reveal of the accidental genocide and needed to keep the girls hands clean for the moment, so they disregarded logic.
Why were the Jedi unaware of previous sith activity? Well the writers needed an antagonist, and the ones with red lightsabers make them more money, so they disregarded lore. Why is there a rule on lightsaber usage that isn’t consistent with lore? Because the writers needed tension in that one fight scene between one of the twins and that one Jedi.
THESE are plot holes. This is WHY the community hates the acolyte, it DETRACTS from the rest of Star Wars, without adding anything of substance. Which, is exactly why adding more toons to the game from this show would be a horrific mistake. Hopefully Disney learned that the community cares about the universe and any project regarding it must respect the previous lore.
C4ESXR wrote:turned purple, evidence of the crystal resisting the corruption.
My point was about how the crystal interacts. This had no intervention at all, yet Revan's crystal did change. And as I said, physical contact is reasonably much more potent in channelling emotion, even unintentionally.
C4ESXR wrote:I said their relationship to the force was affected, not strength. And this is absolutely true as we see cere become a monk, and cal slowly becoming darker and darker in Jedi: Survivor.
And we also see Torbin isolate himself completely from everybody. His relationship with the force was indeed changed. I wasn't talking about strength, your point continued to imply that negative feelings couldn't be carried around without falling to the dark. For all we know, that could have been part of why Torbin isolated himself, to work through those feelings.
C4ESXR wrote:talented? Perhaps. Talented enough in dark skills to pull off the bold-faced deception of one of the greatest force users of the era? I don’t think so. And, that’s only if she didn’t straight up tell him, which again, is heavily implied.
I disagree. The dark side clouded Yoda's vision in Palpatine's case, nobody said that's what Vernestra used.
C4ESXR wrote:yes I absolutely do think he was feeling the dark side, not just in that moment but in the past as well seen in TCW. He used his anger and grief to carry out mass murder including the deaths of a multitude of innocents. Do you not think that was the dark side?
The Clone Wars was after the Tusken massacre, therefore invalidating that point for now. Perhaps Anakin was a bad example, admittedly, but serves it in another way - he had grown up used to using a lightsaber in violent ways. Before the events of AOTC, I believe he killed a slaver in cold blood. Imagine if he'd been taught more restraint. I'm not saying he wouldn't have attacked, but would he have been as quick to draw a weapon if he'd been taught, ingrained deeply throughout his training, not to draw said weapon? No one says it's foolproof. Nevertheless, it's putting a mental safety on a dangerous tool.
C4ESXR wrote:The reality of the situation is that no possible explanation will hold up under logical or lore based scrutiny.
How did the crystal bleed? The writers thought it would look cool and represent her emotions so they disregarded lore. Why did the Jedi commit? The writers thought it would build suspense for the eventual reveal of the accidental genocide and needed to keep the girls hands clean for the moment, so they disregarded logic.
Why were the Jedi unaware of previous sith activity? Well the writers needed an antagonist, and the ones with red lightsabers make them more money, so they disregarded lore. Why is there a rule on lightsaber usage that isn’t consistent with lore? Because the writers needed tension in that one fight scene between one of the twins and that one Jedi.
Um, I'm genuinely confused why there's so many disjointed parts in this. You're disregarding explanations that can surely work in the context. That's me being an optimist. Like I said earlier with Occam's Razor, if I can see an explanation that works and doesn't contradict, I see no reason why it should not be applied. I won't bend over backwards to explain something fundamentally stupid, like CG's recent decisions in the game, but most of these "issues" are more about how you interpret the reason. I lean towards optimism, you (and forgive me if I'm putting words in your mouth) seem to lean more towards pessimism, because I don't want to hate Star Wars.
C4ESXR wrote:THESE are plot holes. This is WHY the community hates the acolyte, it DETRACTS from the rest of Star Wars, without adding anything of substance. Which, is exactly why adding more toons to the game from this show would be a horrific mistake. Hopefully Disney learned that the community cares about the universe and any project regarding it must respect the previous lore.
They added pretty much every character from the sequels and I've seen exactly one person complain about that, and that happened today. Who cares what they look like? It's a character skin. So long as the character isn't stupidly overpowered or breaks the game, I don't care.
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