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eternia99's avatar
2 years ago

Conquest - Just Can't Anymore... :(

I loved Conquest so much when it first came out. It felt like it really could live up to the promise of giving a use to the huge collections of toons that so many of us have cultivated (I have 10M+ GP).

Then the craziness started...

"Win 40 battles with..." anything is just...boring, even if you have the correct characters. And requires immense organization and rigidity. It's not fun.

Same with "Win 14 battles..." within a single Sector. Or..."Kill 100 enemies with this specific character..."

Or asking for severely under-powered teams to compete here - Wookiees and Tuskens, I'm looking at you. I have R5 Tuskens and I can barely find a node that I can win with them, and it makes zero sense for me to develop them further so I can hit that feat - because once I do, the challenge will likely disappear anyway.

When I went through the latest list of the upcoming Conquest, I did the math, and even at 10M+ GP, I still wouldn't be able to get the Max Crate.

Awhile back when they were asking about making Conquest changes, and what would get us to spend the $30 on a pass - well, this is pretty much it. I have bought it in the past, but it's just not worth it if I *STILL* can't get the max rewards at this level. If it were more reasonable to get the achievements, I would have no problem buying it every time.

Even on the Conquests that somehow I am able to complete (I did okay during the Scythe era - only because they had NS Zombie or Enfys cheese which unfortunately disappeared) - it's still no fun at all to have to sit and basically make a spreadsheet of super rigid battles to complete. It's just not fun.

I justify spending money on this game because I do have fun - but I just can't bring myself to spend on something that is so totally un-fun and I'm not going to be able to complete to actually get my money's worth. If I still can't unlock the character even after spending $90 on the conquest pass, I might as well just wait anyway until I finish them later (at that point, it doesn't matter if it's one more conquest or three from when I finally unlock).

What I really would love to see would be some VARIETY and OPTIONS. And much, much more reasonable feats. Really, any more than 5 victories in specific Sectors, or 20 for Globals, is just way too much.

For variety, things like "Complete 5 Battles with only light side Attackers" or "Defeat 20 enemies with a basic ability..." - stuff that is doable and FUN to theory craft for.

I'm no Pollyanna - I get it, this is about us spending money and getting us to do refreshes, etc. - which is fine. I'm not some big whale, but if I look at what I've spent on this game over the past 7 years (which I don't want to, LOL) I am sure I've spent enough to buy a decent used car.

And that's fine - I don't mind paying for my entertainment, and I've sure gotten many hours out of this game. I don't mind buying a Conquest Pass monthly, or spending the crystals on refreshes. But I just can't justify buying a Conquest Pass going further when I'm just not having any fun AND there is no way for me to actually get the full benefit of it in most cases.

Please, CG - give us more options and choices, and let us have fun - this is an excellently designed piece of end-game PvE content, it could be (and at first was) so much fun and actually make us feel like our endless upgrades of endless toons has a purpose. The framework is awesome - but the rigidity of the requirements and the myopic use of our rosters just suck every bit of enjoyment out of it.

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  • Don't kid yourself that Conquest gives you excellent rewards. Just look at the super low numbers of the good stuff they give you at the end of 2 weeks of hell.

    Now the consumables last only one battle (instead of 2-4)
    Defeat 100 enemies w/Tusken Warrior (dumb dumb dumb)
    CG gives us junk globals in which lesser crap teams all have to survive or it doesn't count.
    CG took away certain team comps to make sure we couldn't cheese feats.
    CG made it harder to get some data disks that are needed and took away the fun ones.
    Heaven forbid we can have 'fun' in Conquest!
    It's a grind. Plain and simple. Running alongside TB and then having GAC overlap is ridiculous and malicious. It's making players spend less money, not more. The OP makes very valid points that CG should listen to. CG was kinda heading in the right direction with some of the Conquests, but lately, it's all about the new toons and how they can "F" with the players by including them in every type of game mode to try and force players to pay $$$ to get the toon.
  • "Lumiya;c-2441200" wrote:
    "PlayerJ;c-2441196" wrote:
    "Captain_Drogan;c-2441021" wrote:
    "PlayerJ;c-2441020" wrote:
    I read what Master Seedy said the issue is Master Seedy is making random baseless assumptions.
    He wrote a lot and I can’t address every thing he said in 1 post.



    Random baseless assumptions you say? MasterSeedy is female... :)


    Referring to Master Seedy as a He isn’t random, baseless, or an assumption.

    Master Seedy has chosen to use an Avatar which is very masculine.

    Thus, Master Seedy clearly identifies themselves as Male.

    You telling me Master Seedy is female doesn’t really mean anything.

    A lot of Females in the world consider themselves Male.
    It’s 2023 and I don’t discriminate.


    An avatar does not indicate what a person is. I don't have blue skin nor am I a smurf. People have different reasons for choosing an Avatar, just saying ?

    Also female is an adjective, not a noun. (I am not saying this to be mean, it's just meant as a heads up)


    Wait, and I thought you were a smurf all this time! I am shook! ?
  • "Captain_Drogan;c-2440473" wrote:
    "GeneralOrgana;c-2440391" wrote:
    "Captain_Drogan;c-2440390" wrote:
    If it bothers you so much, just shill out and slack your way to gold box. Waiting an extra two weeks for a character isn't the end of the world and it gives CG time to nerf it before you get it :)


    Well, it's more than two weeks - but in any case - yes, that is exactly what I am doing. And the entire point of my post. CG wants to know why more people don't pay for Conquest Pass, and this is why.

    I'm trying to tell them how to get my money. :)


    It's exactly two weeks.... Redbox folks get it after 3 conquests.... Gold box folks get it the next one..


    You mean four week I guess. Four weeks isn't that long, but still hurts you in GAC, TW, possibly Conquest, TB and Challenge.
  • Myself I'm a try-hard and always gets red without the pass, but fun, it is not
  • Han_Gerbil's avatar
    Han_Gerbil
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 years ago
    Amen… conquest as it is structure with stupid feats, does not add enjoyment, it just ruins the game.
  • I'm a day 1 player, and I've been in this game for stupid game mods, bugs, a chat support that doesn't understand the basics of the game and so on, but I think that if this is the way Conquest will be from now on I might just drop the game
  • "VincentLaserbrain;c-2441459" wrote:
    but I think that if this is the way Conquest will be from now on I might just drop the game

    I won't drop the game...i don't believe in "rage quitting" something i spent years on...BUT if it is not fun i will gradually stop playing it...
    Conques WAS one of my favorite modes and i played MORE when conquest was around...IF it becomes moot, then it is unavoidable that i will play less...not in rage...just not fun.
    I guess i will go back to medium next time if it is not fixed (really fixed)...but not cool.

  • "MrRandyWatson;c-2441489" wrote:
    CG could do something radical and make the mode actually fun and challenging at the same time


    Well ... they could just revert Conquest back to the way it was for the first few iterations.

    The first couple of conquest were very fun. It still took some grinding to get, but it didn't prey on stamina by overlapping feats as much as it does now. It allowed some cheesing which was perfectly fine - since it gave the theory crafters something to do.

    No it's more or less just mindless grind...

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