Contraband Cargo reward structure does not make sense

@Kyno i can easily finish the highest Tier. But i do not have the Falcons at 7* yet. So in a way i am forced to underperform. This should not be the ethic of the Game.

"OldBen;c-1709146" wrote:
Kyno i can easily finish the highest Tier. But i do not have the Falcons at 7* yet. So in a way i am forced to underperform. This should not be the ethic of the Game.

How are you forced? The falcon is farmable elsewhere.

"DuneFlint;c-1709123" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1709107" wrote:

"DuneFlint;c-1709067" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1709040" wrote:

"Austin9370;c-1709035" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1709016" wrote:

"Austin9370;c-1709006" wrote:
When the reward structure is controversial, it means they messed up...

Have you met the forum? Everything is controversial.

While I don't disagree with the forum sentiment, historically there hasn't been an issue with determining which rewards are greater. The highest tier is always better. Everyone does the highest daily challenges because of this.

The higher tier in this event is also better. You get more of the materials that are hard to get elsewhere.

Players wanting to put the last tier on farm when they dont have all the ships that are rewarded at a lower stage doesnt mean that the higher stage is lacking. The rewards are higher.

I disagree. It is not clear that the rewards are better on the highest tier. You have to choose a chance at ship shards/shard currency, or more reinforce/ship omegas. For some the chance at lando shards may be a better reward. In other events where the top tier doesn't award shards the attempts are not shared so you don't actually jave to decide between mats or shards.

Choosing different rewards, doesnt make them better. I would rather have ship materials, that doesnt devalue the ship shards.

I'm confused, my reply was to you specifically saying the rewards on this highest tier are better. But, now you're countering my statement that it's not clear they're better by sayng they're just different. OP's issue seems to be with the 2nd tier having more attractive rewards for them and many others - which i agree with.

The last tier is better, nothing that is removed cant be farmed elsewhere to get those better and more rare rewards. Just because players would choose to make a farm quicker and take less of a different resource doesnt make that lower their better. It is a choice.

Not every event/game mode is designed for everyone at every level to be there and always doing the max. In this case it is designed to help development and when you get to the point where you feel you dont need that development any more you also have an option and that option is better than doing the previous tier. That doesnt mean that because anyone feels like they should do the lower tier to help them develop that this is a mistake or wrong or worse, that is the choice they make to help them farm. That's the choice and personal perspective that anyone can apply to the event, but in no way makes the design wrong. End game players (which is somewhere we will all be down the road) do the highest tier, I dont see anyone choosing to do the lower tier to get less ship mats and extra shard shop currency.

+1 It makes no sense! I rather do the tier with shards than the last one. If you have players than can max out the stars and yet they choose to do the other tier, then you mesed up the rewards!

Everyone is looking at this wrong.

Getting Lando's Falcon shards from the second to last tier is of marginal utility anyway. You still need to farm the fleet node for Young Lando to max him to 7 stars.

If you get a bunch of shards from the event, you'll just end up shard shopping a bunch later on.

And ship omegas are very rare and limited- the Deadly Tier is well worth completing if you can, over the earlier tier.

"Vice_torn;c-1708992" wrote:
You need 7 star ships for the final tier. So why would you want ship shards? At one time you needed all 4 ftp ships (EP8 Falcon, phonix ships, and Slave 1) at 7 star to even have a chance at the final tier. In the final tier you get ship omegas, which have far more value then ship shards.

All 6 current cargo ships are FTP to 7*.

Yes , that's why I don't do the top tier, I rather have a chance to get Falcon shards than a feelw extra ability material...

"Kyno;c-1709179" wrote:

"DuneFlint;c-1709123" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1709107" wrote:

"DuneFlint;c-1709067" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1709040" wrote:

"Austin9370;c-1709035" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1709016" wrote:

"Austin9370;c-1709006" wrote:
When the reward structure is controversial, it means they messed up...

Have you met the forum? Everything is controversial.

While I don't disagree with the forum sentiment, historically there hasn't been an issue with determining which rewards are greater. The highest tier is always better. Everyone does the highest daily challenges because of this.

The higher tier in this event is also better. You get more of the materials that are hard to get elsewhere.

Players wanting to put the last tier on farm when they dont have all the ships that are rewarded at a lower stage doesnt mean that the higher stage is lacking. The rewards are higher.

I disagree. It is not clear that the rewards are better on the highest tier. You have to choose a chance at ship shards/shard currency, or more reinforce/ship omegas. For some the chance at lando shards may be a better reward. In other events where the top tier doesn't award shards the attempts are not shared so you don't actually jave to decide between mats or shards.

Choosing different rewards, doesnt make them better. I would rather have ship materials, that doesnt devalue the ship shards.

I'm confused, my reply was to you specifically saying the rewards on this highest tier are better. But, now you're countering my statement that it's not clear they're better by sayng they're just different. OP's issue seems to be with the 2nd tier having more attractive rewards for them and many others - which i agree with.

The last tier is better, nothing that is removed cant be farmed elsewhere to get those better and more rare rewards. Just because players would choose to make a farm quicker and take less of a different resource doesnt make that lower their better. It is a choice.

Not every event/game mode is designed for everyone at every level to be there and always doing the max. In this case it is designed to help development and when you get to the point where you feel you dont need that development any more you also have an option and that option is better than doing the previous tier. That doesnt mean that because anyone feels like they should do the lower tier to help them develop that this is a mistake or wrong or worse, that is the choice they make to help them farm. That's the choice and personal perspective that anyone can apply to the event, but in no way makes the design wrong. End game players (which is somewhere we will all be down the road) do the highest tier, I dont see anyone choosing to do the lower tier to get less ship mats and extra shard shop currency.

Kyno don't defend CG just for the sake of defending them. I ,like you, defend CG a lot because I understand their mindset with most things. However on this I have to agree that the rewards are not great. I too do the last to final battle so that I can get shard shop currency. You are simply getting more on that second to last battle than you are in the last battle overall. I am end game too and I have in a real tough golden eyeball crunch so of course I want as much shard shop currency as I can get so that I can farm that piece among others.

Recently started a poll about this: https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/comment/1708973#Comment_1708973

So far, its pretty even with who does what. Its confused me since this event began, not only can we not just sim it yet (And it keeps putting the wrong capital in it for some reason when I do the fights) but for some reason they nerfed the top tier rewards by removing shards, but adding some really easy to gain outside of this currency.

You really saying that by now you've not levelled all your relevant ships abilities to max? I've always been hitting the 2nd to last tier and I still have >40 of the omega's lying about with nothing to use them on yet. Yet alone the other currency that I won't be using for a long time.

Meanwhile the 2nd tier gives me new ships and unlocks them to be higher stars, and every now and then gives me free gear from the shard shop. Gear+new ships or a tiny extra amount of currency that means nothing in the long run?

My choice is pretty obvious :p

I agree that it would be nice to have ship shards on the final tier - especially the harder to get cargo ships that aren't in the lower tiers. 1-2 shards of Hound's Tooth is worth 15 of Slave 1 or the Phoenix ships. It would be worth maybe 3 - 5 of Lando's MF except you still have to farm Lando from the same node, so since you're gonna be farming the node for Lando whether you get the MF shards or not, it's back up to 10-15 of Lando's MF. Having 1-2 HT shards, then would be a fine replacement for the lost 5 shards of lesser cargo ships.

But, as much as I'd appreciate that, I actually don't see the highest tier as a step down. I'm consistently doing the highest tier and find it to my advantage to get the extra prestige and ship omegas. Maybe you don't. Maybe you prefer the shards. That's fine. Follow your strategy & see how it works for you.

In the meantime, I'd just like to point out that the bit about how historically the top tier has always been best? Yeah, that's not true. A LONG time ago the higher tiers of daily challenge didn't include all the gear from the lower tiers of the daily challenge. The idea was that you'd get to a point where you didn't need them anymore. For most gear pieces that was true, but not all, and people complained here because of it. They ended up changing the Daily Challenges rewards to incorporate all lower-tier gear at each higher tier.

So while I think that the last tier is still a step up, I'm not entirely sure why shards aren't included (even if only for SS currency) and if y'all want to complain, I say go for it. It's no skin of my back and who knows? You might even get EA/CG to give me more rewards on my next Cargo mission.