Credit heist replays!

"Dooku_for_days;c-1027666" wrote:
There are credit packs in store for a reason. This will never happen. Also, credits aren't even an issue anymore for anyone who's been 85 for a couple of months. Gear is the real limiting factor.

Only if you have the time (and toons) to complete GW every day without fail. Some of us have lives.

Also, the credit packs in the store are a joke. I don't think they've been updated since before the first level cap increase, so while they might be worth it if you are level 50, they're a complete and utter ripoff for those of us at the cap.

"Roken_Fett;c-1027668" wrote:
There's no way it would ever be that cheap. No freaking way.

If they used crystals as re-roll currency it would be somewhere around 500.

Credit packs are 595 crystals for a chance at 1.68 million credits. We'd be looking at 2500+ for two more runs that coukd theoretically give a total of 20 million with a floor of 3 million.

It's credits!!! Ugh, can we close this one down?

If we ever get a gear heist... we can talk reroll then....

"Dooku_for_days;c-1027666" wrote:
There are credit packs in store for a reason. This will never happen. Also, credits aren't even an issue anymore for anyone who's been 85 for a couple of months. Gear is the real limiting factor.

I guess you don't buy mods from the store then. One good mod will wipe out everything you just got from the event. I've been 85 since they upped the level cap, finish GW everyday and still run out of credits almost everyday either through mods in the store, or various other activities. You are right that the real struggle is gear though. On that I can agree.

"Darknessie;c-1028388" wrote:

"davinhalcyon;c-1028264" wrote:

"Darknessie;c-1028237" wrote:
Why would they make it so cheap as 500. That's less than the credit pack. A reroll would more likely be 2500 credits to be consistent.

No it wouldnt. You can buy credits at the store any time. Credit heists only come around so often.

Exactly. Thanks for proving the point. Why would a company out to make money out of you cut their own throat on profit like that.

Because they're not cutting their throat, they're expanding their profit potential.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I'll ever buy a credit pack from the store. Certainly not with money. You know what I might spend a couple bucks on? A credit heist refresh. Because it's more in line with what I would consider the value of credits to be.

Similar to how I can price a box of chocolates at $25, and few will buy it, but if I price it at $10, more will buy it. I'll make more sales that way, eventually leading to more money. The limiting factor being, of course, the cost of production, which there is little of for this event/credits.

"Corrog;c-1028467" wrote:

"Darknessie;c-1028388" wrote:

"davinhalcyon;c-1028264" wrote:

"Darknessie;c-1028237" wrote:
Why would they make it so cheap as 500. That's less than the credit pack. A reroll would more likely be 2500 credits to be consistent.

No it wouldnt. You can buy credits at the store any time. Credit heists only come around so often.

Exactly. Thanks for proving the point. Why would a company out to make money out of you cut their own throat on profit like that.

Because they're not cutting their throat, they're expanding their profit potential.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I'll ever buy a credit pack from the store. Certainly not with money. You know what I might spend a couple bucks on? A credit heist refresh. Because it's more in line with what I would consider the value of credits to be.

Similar to how I can price a box of chocolates at $25, and few will buy it, but if I price it at $10, more will buy it. I'll make more sales that way, eventually leading to more money. The limiting factor being, of course, the cost of production, which there is little of for this event/credits.

The problem with this theory is that if sales are hot(which they are right now), there is no reason to decrease the price. If sales start dropping perhaps they will reconsider the business model.

So they will do 3 - 10 million refresh for less than the price of a 500k refresh. Right. Well if we are having wishful thinking let's ask for 7 star characters for 500 crystals too

"Corrog;c-1028467" wrote:

"Darknessie;c-1028388" wrote:

"davinhalcyon;c-1028264" wrote:

"Darknessie;c-1028237" wrote:
Why would they make it so cheap as 500. That's less than the credit pack. A reroll would more likely be 2500 credits to be consistent.

No it wouldnt. You can buy credits at the store any time. Credit heists only come around so often.

Exactly. Thanks for proving the point. Why would a company out to make money out of you cut their own throat on profit like that.

Because they're not cutting their throat, they're expanding their profit potential.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I'll ever buy a credit pack from the store. Certainly not with money. You know what I might spend a couple bucks on? A credit heist refresh. Because it's more in line with what I would consider the value of credits to be.

Similar to how I can price a box of chocolates at $25, and few will buy it, but if I price it at $10, more will buy it. I'll make more sales that way, eventually leading to more money. The limiting factor being, of course, the cost of production, which there is little of for this event/credits.

Aye. It's the laws of supply and demand.

There's two main strategies to take advantage of in supply and demand:
1. If you are the sole purveyor of something (or are in cahoots with all the other purveyors) then you stand to make a lot more money by selling a little bit at a time. The low supply keeps the demand high which drives the price up.
2. If you are in competition with another purveyor, you can lower your costs to raise the demand for your specific product, thus driving the little guy out of business, at which point you go back to strategy #1.

Now there is a breakpoint that when the supply drops so low people stop looking to get it because there's never enough of it for them to be able to afford to get it.

The diamond industry are masters of this. They only release an exceedingly minute amount of diamonds to the public every year to keep the supply low and the demand high, thus maximizing their profits.

In a community like this, there does need to be a healthy amount of free stuff given out in order to keep the market pool large enough for the competition to drive people to buy, but that doesn't in any way mean they need to adjust prices to induce still more people to buy. No, they're better off keeping prices as they are.


TLDR: They aren't likely to introduce refreshes for a repeating event at a cheaper cost than an option that is always in the store.

"Woodroward;c-1028486" wrote:

"Corrog;c-1028467" wrote:

"Darknessie;c-1028388" wrote:

"davinhalcyon;c-1028264" wrote:

"Darknessie;c-1028237" wrote:
Why would they make it so cheap as 500. That's less than the credit pack. A reroll would more likely be 2500 credits to be consistent.

No it wouldnt. You can buy credits at the store any time. Credit heists only come around so often.

Exactly. Thanks for proving the point. Why would a company out to make money out of you cut their own throat on profit like that.

Because they're not cutting their throat, they're expanding their profit potential.

I don't know about you, but I don't think I'll ever buy a credit pack from the store. Certainly not with money. You know what I might spend a couple bucks on? A credit heist refresh. Because it's more in line with what I would consider the value of credits to be.

Similar to how I can price a box of chocolates at $25, and few will buy it, but if I price it at $10, more will buy it. I'll make more sales that way, eventually leading to more money. The limiting factor being, of course, the cost of production, which there is little of for this event/credits.

Aye. It's the laws of supply and demand.

There's two main strategies to take advantage of in supply and demand:
1. If you are the sole purveyor of something (or are in cahoots with all the other purveyors) then you stand to make a lot more money by selling a little bit at a time. The low supply keeps the demand high which drives the price up.
2. If you are in competition with another purveyor, you can lower your costs to raise the demand for your specific product, thus driving the little guy out of business, at which point you go back to strategy #1.

Now there is a breakpoint that when the supply drops so low people stop looking to get it because there's never enough of it for them to be able to afford to get it.

The diamond industry are masters of this. They only release an exceedingly minute amount of diamonds to the public every year to keep the supply low and the demand high, thus maximizing their profits.

In a community like this, there does need to be a healthy amount of free stuff given out in order to keep the market pool large enough for the competition to drive people to buy, but that doesn't in any way mean they need to adjust prices to induce still more people to buy. No, they're better off keeping prices as they are.


TLDR: They aren't likely to introduce refreshes for a repeating event at a cheaper cost than an option that is always in the store.

And this is why I am happy they have this event at all. They are giving out a huge amount of credits for free when you can get a very small percentage of this value in the store for much more real money.

"Exletion;c-1028423" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1027666" wrote:
There are credit packs in store for a reason. This will never happen. Also, credits aren't even an issue anymore for anyone who's been 85 for a couple of months. Gear is the real limiting factor.

I guess you don't buy mods from the store then. One good mod will wipe out everything you just got from the event. I've been 85 since they upped the level cap, finish GW everyday and still run out of credits almost everyday either through mods in the store, or various other activities. You are right that the real struggle is gear though. On that I can agree.

You must be very lucky or you buy everything.. A mod pops up worth buying maybe 1-2 time a week for me.

I just don't get it... You earn credits faster then you can gear a toon... Mods aren't that expensive to upgrade.

Yes from time to time you might not have enough or you have to choose between buying a mod or leveling a character (I level characters maybe once a week...). This is part of the game, you have to chose what you spend your resources on.

You don't get to go into a store and buy one of everything and then complain they should lower prices. Go try that at walmart, home of low prices and they will think your are crazy(ier then their normal customers).

Expecting to buy everything in the stores is not a realistic expectation imo.