Darth Bane omicron refund, please

Probably not ... it does how ever feel alot like a bait and switch, since NO part of the omicron-part of his unique could have any effect on anything after Bane has died, so the line has baited a lot of people to put in on because the only logical way to look at it would be that the effects which apply to the other Sith would persist after Banes death.

I mean even if the description is faulty. The omicron is still better than most other good omicron.

"Omilek;c-2460994" wrote:
I mean even if the description is faulty. The omicron is still better than most other good omicron.

yeah other than the persist after defeated the rest of the bonuses are still pretty good imo

"Ultra;c-2460995" wrote:

"Omilek;c-2460994" wrote:
I mean even if the description is faulty. The omicron is still better than most other good omicron.

yeah other than the persist after defeated the rest of the bonuses are still pretty good imo

I agree, and I would reapply in a heartbeat. However, as a matter of principle, this soon after a release, I think any kit change should be met with a refund.

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2460997" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2460995" wrote:

"Omilek;c-2460994" wrote:
I mean even if the description is faulty. The omicron is still better than most other good omicron.

yeah other than the persist after defeated the rest of the bonuses are still pretty good imo

I agree, and I would reapply in a heartbeat. However, as a matter of principle, this soon after a release, I think any kit change should be met with a refund.

i agree

also, the omicron is a must to have, all the more reason to refund it since most players will end up applying it back or eventually will imo

The idea of "its so necessary its not worth refunding" isn't a good stance to take for CG because the players should have agency on deciding for themselves

"ConnorMcLurk;c-2461018" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2460995" wrote:

"Omilek;c-2460994" wrote:
I mean even if the description is faulty. The omicron is still better than most other good omicron.

yeah other than the persist after defeated the rest of the bonuses are still pretty good imo

True, but to erase a Leia or a LV that omicron is not necessary. And why would you put that last sentence in that spot? Nothing Omicron related goes to anybody but Bane himself. So persisting effects do not matter at all.

You can beat LV and Leia without those juicy stat boosts? Mine would have died for sure without them. Sample size = 1

"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2461073" wrote:
The way I see it, the only people who are entitled to a refund: read the omicron text, saw that the benefits would apply to Bane himself only, was still not convinced the omi was worth it, and then was somehow sold by "persist after defeat".

I don't disagree with what you said. But I'm not concerned with "entitlements". I think CG should strive to maintain player confidence. Things like this have happened repeatedly over the years, and they are a large part of what drove me to stop spending. Obviously, I am not CG's typical customer

"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2461073" wrote:
The way I see it, the only people who are entitled to a refund: read the omicron text, saw that the benefits would apply to Bane himself only, was still not convinced the omi was worth it, and then was somehow sold by "persist after defeat".

I would probably apply the omi either way, however the text was/is grossly misleading.
As I’ve mentioned in a discussion before release the “persist after death” sentence only make sense if it’s the entire unique, not just the omi part as it otherwise would do nothing.

And the lift from the omi is in an entirely different league if it’s all of the unique that persist vs nothing.
It’s the difference between enabling SEE/Bane to beat JMK, Jabba and Rey consistently or not at all/only occasionally.

Still a super strong toon an decent omi, but very different in terms of what teams it “solve”

"thedrjojo;c-2461148" wrote:

"Morgoth01;c-2461089" wrote:

"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2461073" wrote:
The way I see it, the only people who are entitled to a refund: read the omicron text, saw that the benefits would apply to Bane himself only, was still not convinced the omi was worth it, and then was somehow sold by "persist after defeat".

I would probably apply the omi either way, however the text was/is grossly misleading.
As I’ve mentioned in a discussion before release the “persist after death” sentence only make sense if it’s the entire unique, not just the omi part as it otherwise would do nothing.

And the lift from the omi is in an entirely different league if it’s all of the unique that persist vs nothing.
It’s the difference between enabling SEE/Bane to beat JMK, Jabba and Rey consistently or not at all/only occasionally.

Still a super strong toon an decent omi, but very different in terms of what teams it “solve”

In squad arena, cat force leaps see 3/3 times and I win with full health/protection on see/bane

Plenty of easy solves for JMK, in 5v5 SEE does just fine with one of his previous lifters.
Wouldn’t stake my GAC on CAT not being deceived and her choosing SEE over Bane.
Point is that what Bane doesn’t lift SEE to solve many problems, just allow him to two man a lot more than before.
Bane is best used to lift himself and some rando high relic Sith since the omi doesn’t actually persist.

Btw also a funny notion that the two most likely use cases for Bane is him under SEE lead and under his own lead, both of which prevent revive, making the “his own stat boosts persist until a revive” even more absurd

I think many people posting are missing the point. No one is arguing Bane is not good or that the Omicron is not good (even without the "persist"). The issue is simply the description of the Omicron was incorrect, and many people applied it before CG acknowledged that. I imagine many players will continue to apply it (not frequenting the forums) before CG changes the description. Now, some may still apply it or re-apply it if it is refunded, but the point is that CG should refund the Omicron to maintain player confidence and trust. CG clearly made an error here, whether it was intended or not