Darth Revan in phase 3 of the Sith raid

What's the point of using such team in heroic P3? Several well-known teams can do way more damage there. It may have use in P6 if your guild struggling with it, you have resets and can use one team for several phases. But when you are trying to progress through Heroic you must use non-optimal teams only on phases which are really hard for you guild, while P3 is usually the easiest.

I've consistently gotten 4M in Heroic phase 3 with Darth Revan.

Hortus - don't forget there are guilds where HSith is on farm. My guild kills it in about 1.5 hours. I don't have Death Storm setup, and I'm not willing to do the CLS grind-fest for p3, so I stick with my Chex Mix, ROLO, and now I add Darth Revan. In about 10 minutes worth of work, I can usually rack up about 7M total in p3, which seems fine to me.

I do the greedo mix and then follow up with the sith empire for well over 10 mil (combined) in heroic sith raid. My guild knocked phase 3 out in about 15 minutes or less, so you have to do the greedo mix first and follow up because it takes longer for the sith empire. The sith empire reliably gets 5.7 mil, sometimes more.

Nice. I'd love to see that team in heroic. Nightsisters have p3 and p4 locked down, but it's nice to see a journey character do some good damage.

Edit: heroic is tough. Lol

I don't have Nightsisters at the moment on my main account, so I've been trying to find other teams that work well enough.

"jkray622;c-1827173" wrote:


Hortus - don't forget there are guilds where HSith is on farm.

Yes, and in that case squeezing some damage to raise in ranks is understandable. But it's not the case. OP's guild doing T6 now, as I understand. And it's pretty safe to assume that P3 won't be the choke point when guild moves from T6 to heroic. So the choice may be between trying to raise personal damage without any real help (IF other guild members have squads which can handle this phase), or trying to adapt team for harder phases to actually help in progression. DR is probably not good at Nihilus but shouldn't be terrible at both Scions. While P2 is better be handled with JKR, every bit should help on P4.

"Hortus;c-1827713" wrote:

"jkray622;c-1827173" wrote:


Hortus - don't forget there are guilds where HSith is on farm.

Yes, and in that case squeezing some damage to raise in ranks is understandable. But it's not the case. OP's guild doing T6 now, as I understand. And it's pretty safe to assume that P3 won't be the choke point when guild moves from T6 to heroic. So the choice may be between trying to raise personal damage without any real help (IF other guild members have squads which can handle this phase), or trying to adapt team for harder phases to actually help in progression. DR is probably not good at Nihilus but shouldn't be terrible at both Scions. While P2 is better be handled with JKR, every bit should help on P4.

My guild doesn't have a lot of phase 3 teams at the moment. We have a few Nightsisters, and there's only three of us with Chexmix, though none of them are really developed a lot. We have a decent amount of JKRs and one Aurra team. Phases 3 and 4 take the longest for us. We finish the first two phases in about 10 to 12 hours, then we halt on the last two for 2 to 3 days.
We're starting to work on getting more heroic teams, so eventually this team won't be great to use in phase 3, but for now it's helping us get through the raid that much faster.

"Hortus;c-1827713" wrote:

"jkray622;c-1827173" wrote:


Hortus - don't forget there are guilds where HSith is on farm.

Yes, and in that case squeezing some damage to raise in ranks is understandable. But it's not the case. OP's guild doing T6 now, as I understand. And it's pretty safe to assume that P3 won't be the choke point when guild moves from T6 to heroic. So the choice may be between trying to raise personal damage without any real help (IF other guild members have squads which can handle this phase), or trying to adapt team for harder phases to actually help in progression. DR is probably not good at Nihilus but shouldn't be terrible at both Scions. While P2 is better be handled with JKR, every bit should help on P4.

That's funny, P3 has been the longest phase in every heroic guild I've been in. In my current guild P1, P2 and p4 last no more than a couple of hours each whereas p3 lasts a good 12 hours or so.

"Hortus;c-1827149" wrote:
What's the point of using such team in heroic P3? Several well-known teams can do way more damage there. It may have use in P6 if your guild struggling with it, you have resets and can use one team for several phases. But when you are trying to progress through Heroic you must use non-optimal teams only on phases which are really hard for you guild, while P3 is usually the easiest.

Maybe so, but DR's Deathmark makes it tricky to use him in raids because it tends to rob you of Topples by forcing you to attack the boss and feed it turn meter. If you can topple Traya and have her deathmarked for the entire time, that's by far going to be the best place to use him in the Sith raid.

Also, "P3 is the easiest?" Pretty much every other source out there (including my own experience) says it's the hardest since you need such weird team combos to do any real damage. I can throw my regular old First Order team at Sion and at least make a dent - if I throw them at Traya I probably won't even clear 500k.

@Drageero does Nihilus play some essential role here, or are you just using him because you don't have Assassin or Marauder geared up?

"Newer" Heroic Sith guilds tend to think of p3 as the easiest due to long-standing nature of the recently-nerfed zFinn Cheese squad. I know there's the CLS/C3PO squad that can still solo the phase, but it is very manual and very time-consuming, so many players may not be willing to do it twice a week.

Given that 1-2 really strong Ventress Nightsister squads can kill phase 4 Nihilus (or 3-4 good players), that's not much of a barrier anymore. Darth Revan will die fairly quickly against Sion since they take extra damage and can't prevent his counterattacks, so phase 3 Traya seems by far the best place to use Darth Revan.

For me, the key to deathmarking Traya during topple is to use Darth Revan's Lightning Storm to deathmark Traya, then follow up with HK-47 grenade and/or Sith Trooper AoE to finish off the sabers. My last run in Heroic just broke 5M.