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Lekrom1982's avatar
7 years ago

DN description is lying

I tried very hard but cannot find any description in the raid mechanics or Nihilus abilities that says he is able to take 2 turns in succession when hitting with his basic or AoE. Yet he does this most of the time, which sucks when you try to time putting unbreakable will up for his upcoming annhilate.

surely this is not WAI?
  • "kalidor;c-1491551" wrote:
    The bonus action doesn't count as a turn, so if his annihilate was at 5 before his turn, it'll be at 4 after. However - if on his first action he does drain force and all 5 of your heroes are debuffed, at the end of that action Annihilate will be ready to use for his second action.
    What I've been doing before Nih takes a turn is to look at both the cooldown for Drain Force (is it ready?) and Annihilate. If say Annihilate is at 2 but drain force is on cooldown, you're safe. Annihilate will be at 1 afterward. If Drain force isn't on cooldown, then you need to do some math - will you have enough debuffed heroes when he takes his turn to do a Drain Force/Annihilate combo, or are you safe? It's tricky, but a lot easier if you can keep your heroes debuff-free (with Rex, Yoda, or Chirrut's Tenacity up or a cleanse).


    Unfortunately he sometimes doesn't use his annihilate when it is ready. I've seen that happen multiple times. Other than that, i use the same strategy. Retreating is always an option, but it's so gosh darn anoying when it goes wrong when you're having a good run up til that point ;)
  • He’s got +1 bonus action each turn. I think heroic adds 50% chance for another bonus action. So it’s still one turn for the purpose of the enrage timer, just multiple actions within one turn
  • okay I see it now, it's not very well worded or phrased - so on that "+1 action" how would you know if he is going to use it and then annhilate immediately after if annhilate is on 2 turn cooldown? it's broken if you ask me - how could you ever hope to play with a proper plan to counter it if it's so RNG dependent?
  • braskme's avatar
    braskme
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    The bonus action doesn't count as a turn, so if his annihilate was at 5 before his turn, it'll be at 4 after. However - if on his first action he does drain force and all 5 of your heroes are debuffed, at the end of that action Annihilate will be ready to use for his second action.
    What I've been doing before Nih takes a turn is to look at both the cooldown for Drain Force (is it ready?) and Annihilate. If say Annihilate is at 2 but drain force is on cooldown, you're safe. Annihilate will be at 1 afterward. If Drain force isn't on cooldown, then you need to do some math - will you have enough debuffed heroes when he takes his turn to do a Drain Force/Annihilate combo, or are you safe? It's tricky, but a lot easier if you can keep your heroes debuff-free (with Rex, Yoda, or Chirrut's Tenacity up or a cleanse).