"BobcatSkywalker;c-1963691" wrote:"Nikoms565;c-1963542" wrote:"7AnimalMother;c-1963284" wrote:
These threads are pointless.
Neither the people arguing that they changed or didn't change have any evidence to back it up.
The only people who have any evidence is the employees at EA (and likely very few of them at that).
Everything in this game is done at EA's whim. By playing this game, you are essentially agreeing to take at face value whatever they state drop rates are.
Could they advertise "double drops" and then halve the drop rate? Absolutely they could. They are not regulated for gambling, so they have no independent auditors overseeing them.
Would they do it? Who knows... Anyone who makes a freemium game is at least a little scummy in my mind, so I wouldn't put it past them. Couple the profit motive with no oversight, and I could certainly see it.
But if they did, it doesn't matter because you can't prove it. As others have pointed out, the data of 20, 40, or even a 100 people on the forum isn't a sufficient sample size to prove anything given a player base somewhere around a million or more.
Search is your friend. Entire guilds have tracked drop rates - and yes, during "double drops" and events. When people track the data over a decent enough sample size, the results and drop rates are always the same - 30-33% for shards, 20% for gear (purple anyway). ALWAYS.
Add to that fact (yes, fact) that the developers have repeatedly stated that drop rates don't change. Ever.
There's a lot of things that CG /EA do with this game that I am not necessarily a fan of - but they don't manipulate drop rates. And people who suggest they do are simply too lazy to actually track the data over a respectable sample size.
50 people out of millions isn't a acceptable sample size we need at least 3,000 guilds of data otherwise your data is insufficient to prove the rates have increased during double drops. Just 1 guild lol.
Ok u wanna base everything on just this one guild... Was it a pay to win guild or a free to play guild. How many paid that month, did paying increase their drops? How did their numbers compare to a guild where no one paid anything that month?
"Presaria;c-1963754" wrote:
Look, Cg nerfs the drop rate every time they do double drops since the game started. Everyone knows it. Not sure why anyone would expect a different outcome, so just stop going all in on the double drop charade.
"JDIII;c-1962291" wrote:
My broken watch is always right at least once a day
"Nikoms565;c-1963731" wrote:"BobcatSkywalker;c-1963691" wrote:"Nikoms565;c-1963542" wrote:"7AnimalMother;c-1963284" wrote:
These threads are pointless.
Neither the people arguing that they changed or didn't change have any evidence to back it up.
The only people who have any evidence is the employees at EA (and likely very few of them at that).
Everything in this game is done at EA's whim. By playing this game, you are essentially agreeing to take at face value whatever they state drop rates are.
Could they advertise "double drops" and then halve the drop rate? Absolutely they could. They are not regulated for gambling, so they have no independent auditors overseeing them.
Would they do it? Who knows... Anyone who makes a freemium game is at least a little scummy in my mind, so I wouldn't put it past them. Couple the profit motive with no oversight, and I could certainly see it.
But if they did, it doesn't matter because you can't prove it. As others have pointed out, the data of 20, 40, or even a 100 people on the forum isn't a sufficient sample size to prove anything given a player base somewhere around a million or more.
Search is your friend. Entire guilds have tracked drop rates - and yes, during "double drops" and events. When people track the data over a decent enough sample size, the results and drop rates are always the same - 30-33% for shards, 20% for gear (purple anyway). ALWAYS.
Add to that fact (yes, fact) that the developers have repeatedly stated that drop rates don't change. Ever.
There's a lot of things that CG /EA do with this game that I am not necessarily a fan of - but they don't manipulate drop rates. And people who suggest they do are simply too lazy to actually track the data over a respectable sample size.
50 people out of millions isn't a acceptable sample size we need at least 3,000 guilds of data otherwise your data is insufficient to prove the rates have increased during double drops. Just 1 guild lol.
Ok u wanna base everything on just this one guild... Was it a pay to win guild or a free to play guild. How many paid that month, did paying increase their drops? How did their numbers compare to a guild where no one paid anything that month?
The burden of proof isn't on me. It's on those suggesting everyone else is lying or misleading them. Should I put you down fir large or XL? ;)
"BobcatSkywalker;c-1963859" wrote:"Nikoms565;c-1963731" wrote:"BobcatSkywalker;c-1963691" wrote:"Nikoms565;c-1963542" wrote:"7AnimalMother;c-1963284" wrote:
These threads are pointless.
Neither the people arguing that they changed or didn't change have any evidence to back it up.
The only people who have any evidence is the employees at EA (and likely very few of them at that).
Everything in this game is done at EA's whim. By playing this game, you are essentially agreeing to take at face value whatever they state drop rates are.
Could they advertise "double drops" and then halve the drop rate? Absolutely they could. They are not regulated for gambling, so they have no independent auditors overseeing them.
Would they do it? Who knows... Anyone who makes a freemium game is at least a little scummy in my mind, so I wouldn't put it past them. Couple the profit motive with no oversight, and I could certainly see it.
But if they did, it doesn't matter because you can't prove it. As others have pointed out, the data of 20, 40, or even a 100 people on the forum isn't a sufficient sample size to prove anything given a player base somewhere around a million or more.
Search is your friend. Entire guilds have tracked drop rates - and yes, during "double drops" and events. When people track the data over a decent enough sample size, the results and drop rates are always the same - 30-33% for shards, 20% for gear (purple anyway). ALWAYS.
Add to that fact (yes, fact) that the developers have repeatedly stated that drop rates don't change. Ever.
There's a lot of things that CG /EA do with this game that I am not necessarily a fan of - but they don't manipulate drop rates. And people who suggest they do are simply too lazy to actually track the data over a respectable sample size.
50 people out of millions isn't a acceptable sample size we need at least 3,000 guilds of data otherwise your data is insufficient to prove the rates have increased during double drops. Just 1 guild lol.
Ok u wanna base everything on just this one guild... Was it a pay to win guild or a free to play guild. How many paid that month, did paying increase their drops? How did their numbers compare to a guild where no one paid anything that month?
The burden of proof isn't on me. It's on those suggesting everyone else is lying or misleading them. Should I put you down fir large or XL? ;)
Your claiming entire guilds have tracked drop rates, I'm just asking about the study you brought up by these guilds. Were they free to play or pay to win or a mix, did they track by player or by guild? There's a lot of factors involved just saying guilds have tracked it and it is always 30 to 33%.
If it was a mix guild of f2p and p2w and some p2w had 44% drops, and the f2p had 22% drops the guild would be at 32%.
Do u see the point?
"Nikoms565;c-1963542" wrote:"7AnimalMother;c-1963284" wrote:
These threads are pointless.
Neither the people arguing that they changed or didn't change have any evidence to back it up.
The only people who have any evidence is the employees at EA (and likely very few of them at that).
Everything in this game is done at EA's whim. By playing this game, you are essentially agreeing to take at face value whatever they state drop rates are.
Could they advertise "double drops" and then halve the drop rate? Absolutely they could. They are not regulated for gambling, so they have no independent auditors overseeing them.
Would they do it? Who knows... Anyone who makes a freemium game is at least a little scummy in my mind, so I wouldn't put it past them. Couple the profit motive with no oversight, and I could certainly see it.
But if they did, it doesn't matter because you can't prove it. As others have pointed out, the data of 20, 40, or even a 100 people on the forum isn't a sufficient sample size to prove anything given a player base somewhere around a million or more.
Search is your friend. Entire guilds have tracked drop rates - and yes, during "double drops" and events. When people track the data over a decent enough sample size, the results and drop rates are always the same - 30-33% for shards, 20% for gear (purple anyway). ALWAYS.
Add to that fact (yes, fact) that the developers have repeatedly stated that drop rates don't change. Ever.
There's a lot of things that CG /EA do with this game that I am not necessarily a fan of - but they don't manipulate drop rates. And people who suggest they do are simply too lazy to actually track the data over a respectable sample size.
