Easiest fix for Arena collusion/shard-chart

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549587" wrote:
Why do you guys even need to conspire to control top ten. If a few hundred crystals are so important to you maybe you should stop playing so much and work more then you can afford all the crystals you want

Comments like this take away and shred of credibility you may have had.
It’s a competitive game mode and some people are competitive.
That’s like saying that all NFL players should go get jobs so they can buy their own rings.

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549587" wrote:
Why do you guys even need to conspire to control top ten. If a few hundred crystals are so important to you maybe you should stop playing so much and work more then you can afford all the crystals you want

It's not a conspiracy when it's out in the open. As @leef and others have mentioned, it's not 100% guaranteed a spot because you have to get there. However, in my shard chat, which is not indicative of all shard chats, once you're in the top, we actively help each other cycle the top spots for payout. Some payouts only have 1-2 people, some have 6-7. But usually, I'd estimate, it's probably about 17-20 people getting #1 each day.

We have a lot of cool players in our shard chat. We want to avoid screwing each other's payouts that's why we pay attention to when the payouts are.

We work with the mode they gave us. As I mentioned, I'd rather have best rank since last payout, or moving at least part of the crystal rewards to PVE (such as GW or a new mode) would reduce the importance of the arena payouts.

*shrug*

The only way any of that will change is if you come up with some magical mode to generate crystals for players that isn't an arena that also either maintains or increases CG's revenue. At that point, they might listen =p.
(Sorry, this is my cynical side =p)

"kello_511;c-1549719" wrote:

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549587" wrote:
Why do you guys even need to conspire to control top ten. If a few hundred crystals are so important to you maybe you should stop playing so much and work more then you can afford all the crystals you want

Comments like this take away and shred of credibility you may have had.
It’s a competitive game mode and some people are competitive.
That’s like saying that all NFL players should go get jobs so they can buy their own rings.

I agree its a competitive single player game mode. In your argument you are basically now saying its ok for NFL players to collude to fix matches.
Cheating is not being competitive.
Also you are saying my comments take away my credibility, what about yours? The fact that you condone and take part in cheating says alot about your personality and credibility.

"xeynx;c-1549750" wrote:

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549587" wrote:
Why do you guys even need to conspire to control top ten. If a few hundred crystals are so important to you maybe you should stop playing so much and work more then you can afford all the crystals you want

It's not a conspiracy when it's out in the open. As @leef and others have mentioned, it's not 100% guaranteed a spot because you have to get there. However, in my shard chat, which is not indicative of all shard chats, once you're in the top, we actively help each other cycle the top spots for payout. Some payouts only have 1-2 people, some have 6-7. But usually, I'd estimate, it's probably about 17-20 people getting #1 each day.

We have a lot of cool players in our shard chat. We want to avoid screwing each other's payouts that's why we pay attention to when the payouts are.

We work with the mode they gave us. As I mentioned, I'd rather have best rank since last payout, or moving at least part of the crystal rewards to PVE (such as GW or a new mode) would reduce the importance of the arena payouts.

*shrug*

The only way any of that will change is if you come up with some magical mode to generate crystals for players that isn't an arena that also either maintains or increases CG's revenue. At that point, they might listen =p.
(Sorry, this is my cynical side =p)

Its out on the open for a minority of people. The majority wont even come on this forum and alot are minors who cant even see messages in game and wont have any idea this is going on.

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549813" wrote:

"kello_511;c-1549719" wrote:

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549587" wrote:
Why do you guys even need to conspire to control top ten. If a few hundred crystals are so important to you maybe you should stop playing so much and work more then you can afford all the crystals you want

Comments like this take away and shred of credibility you may have had.
It’s a competitive game mode and some people are competitive.
That’s like saying that all NFL players should go get jobs so they can buy their own rings.

I agree its a competitive single player game mode. In your argument you are basically now saying its ok for NFL players to collude to fix matches.
Cheating is not being competitive.
Also you are saying my comments take away my credibility, what about yours? The fact that you condone and take part in cheating says alot about your personality and credibility.

First off, it isn't cheating, so there's that.
I don't know anything about the NFL, but in football (soccer) it's not that uncommon to play for the draw in certain situation when it benefits both clubs.That way both teams get 1 point instead of one of them getting 3 points and the other 0 points. It's still highly competative though.

Another example is cycling. Cyclists from different teams almost always work together to maintain a lead. Also a highly competative sport.

No but openly fixing the top 10 positions in the premier league would not go down well to put it mildly would it?
That is what you are doing.

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549813" wrote:

"kello_511;c-1549719" wrote:

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549587" wrote:
Why do you guys even need to conspire to control top ten. If a few hundred crystals are so important to you maybe you should stop playing so much and work more then you can afford all the crystals you want

Comments like this take away and shred of credibility you may have had.
It’s a competitive game mode and some people are competitive.
That’s like saying that all NFL players should go get jobs so they can buy their own rings.

I agree its a competitive single player game mode. In your argument you are basically now saying its ok for NFL players to collude to fix matches.
Cheating is not being competitive.
Also you are saying my comments take away my credibility, what about yours? The fact that you condone and take part in cheating says alot about your personality and credibility.

1. It’s not cheating
2. I never took a stance on either side, I’m only pointing out that a comment like “get a job” makes you seem petty and dissuades others from taking you seriously.

My point was that you are saying that people who are playing to win should just “get a job and stop worrying about it” and that this is like telling any professional sportsman to “quit playing for the prize and just go buy it”. Whether you prefer to apply that to an NFL player, or a cyclist, or a fisherman doesn’t really matter...for them the payoff is to succeeed at their game.

This is a game and crystals allow for progression. Players who desire to build their rosters quickly and compete at the top end of the game want crystals, while part of the allure for them is also to place highly in arena to maximize their income.
To say “stop worrying about top ranks and just buy your crystals” makes no sense in this context. By extension of your argument we should all just delete the game and send EA a cheque every month.

"UnstopableSteve;c-1549842" wrote:
No but openly fixing the top 10 positions in the premier league would not go down well to put it mildly would it?
That is what you are doing.

That's actually not what i'm doing at all. What i'm doing is much closer to going for the draw when it benefits both, not that you care as long as you can point your finger.
Regardless, the point was that it's not unheard of to cooperate with the competition in sports, wihtout the sport not being competative anymore. The same applies to the swgoh arena.
Also, fixing the top10 in the premier league isn't really the same as controlling the top10 in arena. If the swgoh arena was a competation/league instead of this weird ladder system, we wouldn't be having this conversation in the first place.

Last I checked, players in the NFL play to receive money, because that's their job.

They don't try to win football games for crystals while driving home from work or reading to their kids.