Emperor's Shuttle - a missed chance!

The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

"Kyno;c-1772407" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772401" wrote:
The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

Ships has never had a rock paper scissors layout.

At best you could use a different capital ship but still ~80% same ships.

They seem to be fleshing out ships a bit and we cant expect every ship to be "the ship" every time, we need the support and backup to come about.

When HT was meta, it was beatable by a variety of ships and fleets. The Falcon is so OP that the only viable way to beat it is by using another Falcon fleet!

A new capital ship does not solve the issue of ladder just moving on to the new meta capital ship. I would like to think any capital ship with a good developed roster can beat any fleet on defense but the introduction of the OTMF forced the ackbar meta, anakin's eta helped mace's timeout fleet, and HT has become a universal tank. I am probably one of many who thought a new ship would help lessen the impact of OTMF in fleet arena and give other capital ship a fighting chance. OTMF being more cumbersome than HT I guess we are back to the whole timeout fleet scenario but this time with ackbar OTMF just demolishing everything in its path. Can't we just get a ship that is marquee and soon to be f2p farmable to mitigate this meta that isn't this shuttle?

Precisely. Every fleet in arena looks the same on kynshard and I have some of the most

"dimi4a;c-1772411" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772407" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772401" wrote:
The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

Ships has never had a rock paper scissors layout.

At best you could use a different capital ship but still ~80% same ships.

They seem to be fleshing out ships a bit and we cant expect every ship to be "the ship" every time, we need the support and backup to come about.

When HT was meta, it was beatable by a variety of ships and fleets. The Falcon is so OP that the only viable way to beat it is by using another Falcon fleet!

Exactly, every fleet on my shard looks the same now contrary to their whole “we want to provide more options”. Where do they come from where that means “force one specific lineup model”? Shuttle didn’t have to break the falcon while still being a chance to make other fleets players heavily invested time and $ in to not feel like theybjust got kicked in the Jimmy. It was also released in a way specifically to trigger a panic farm. Why on earth should players spend one extra ¢ on it if it does absolutely nothing to change anything? The most powerful force user in the galaxy at his time but no, he can’t affect a battle in any meaningful way. Just seems rather bonkers on a marketing standpoint to specifically release a panic farm acquired ship/toon and remove any reason to panic farm it. Also, another missed opportunity to release a DS legendary that could be DS unlocked but I guess they love keeping that same force alignment unlock for ONLY LS.

"Kyno;c-1772436" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772411" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772407" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772401" wrote:
The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

Ships has never had a rock paper scissors layout.

At best you could use a different capital ship but still ~80% same ships.

They seem to be fleshing out ships a bit and we cant expect every ship to be "the ship" every time, we need the support and backup to come about.

When HT was meta, it was beatable by a variety of ships and fleets. The Falcon is so OP that the only viable way to beat it is by using another Falcon fleet!

A variety is a stretch, but yes there was more than mirror matches, but still many of the same ships in both teams.

Well at least it was something, unlike now!

"Kyno;c-1772444" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772439" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772436" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772411" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772407" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772401" wrote:
The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

Ships has never had a rock paper scissors layout.

At best you could use a different capital ship but still ~80% same ships.

They seem to be fleshing out ships a bit and we cant expect every ship to be "the ship" every time, we need the support and backup to come about.

When HT was meta, it was beatable by a variety of ships and fleets. The Falcon is so OP that the only viable way to beat it is by using another Falcon fleet!

A variety is a stretch, but yes there was more than mirror matches, but still many of the same ships in both teams.

Well at least it was something, unlike now!

I agree, but the point is that as they develop more ships not every ship is going to the key ship to change things. That doesnt mean they wont be useful later.

That's exactly the problem with the shuttle - why wait for future ships in order for it to become viable, instead of just making it's abilities more powerful? Is that so hard? We already have enough Empire/Sith ships to pair it with!

"dimi4a;c-1772446" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772444" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772439" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772436" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772411" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772407" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772401" wrote:
The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

Ships has never had a rock paper scissors layout.

At best you could use a different capital ship but still ~80% same ships.

They seem to be fleshing out ships a bit and we cant expect every ship to be "the ship" every time, we need the support and backup to come about.

When HT was meta, it was beatable by a variety of ships and fleets. The Falcon is so OP that the only viable way to beat it is by using another Falcon fleet!

A variety is a stretch, but yes there was more than mirror matches, but still many of the same ships in both teams.

Well at least it was something, unlike now!

I agree, but the point is that as they develop more ships not every ship is going to the key ship to change things. That doesnt mean they wont be useful later.

That's exactly the problem with the shuttle - why wait for future ships in order for it to become viable, instead of just making it's abilities more powerful? Is that so hard? We already have enough Empire/Sith ships to pair it with!

Apparently that is too hard. Just like a DS unlocking a legendary DS for once in the years of this game instead of just giving LS all the faction only unlocks. Truthfully it’s not, but for them it is for some reason.

"Kyno;c-1772512" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772446" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772444" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772439" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772436" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772411" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772407" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772401" wrote:
The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

Ships has never had a rock paper scissors layout.

At best you could use a different capital ship but still ~80% same ships.

They seem to be fleshing out ships a bit and we cant expect every ship to be "the ship" every time, we need the support and backup to come about.

When HT was meta, it was beatable by a variety of ships and fleets. The Falcon is so OP that the only viable way to beat it is by using another Falcon fleet!

A variety is a stretch, but yes there was more than mirror matches, but still many of the same ships in both teams.

Well at least it was something, unlike now!

I agree, but the point is that as they develop more ships not every ship is going to the key ship to change things. That doesnt mean they wont be useful later.

That's exactly the problem with the shuttle - why wait for future ships in order for it to become viable, instead of just making it's abilities more powerful? Is that so hard? We already have enough Empire/Sith ships to pair it with!

Because that would then limit future releases as they would have to dialed back to keep the balance.

But there is no balance!

"DEATHCOYOTE;c-1772507" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772446" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772444" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772439" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772436" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772411" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772407" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772401" wrote:
The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

Ships has never had a rock paper scissors layout.

At best you could use a different capital ship but still ~80% same ships.

They seem to be fleshing out ships a bit and we cant expect every ship to be "the ship" every time, we need the support and backup to come about.

When HT was meta, it was beatable by a variety of ships and fleets. The Falcon is so OP that the only viable way to beat it is by using another Falcon fleet!

A variety is a stretch, but yes there was more than mirror matches, but still many of the same ships in both teams.

Well at least it was something, unlike now!

I agree, but the point is that as they develop more ships not every ship is going to the key ship to change things. That doesnt mean they wont be useful later.

That's exactly the problem with the shuttle - why wait for future ships in order for it to become viable, instead of just making it's abilities more powerful? Is that so hard? We already have enough Empire/Sith ships to pair it with!

Apparently that is too hard. Just like a DS unlocking a legendary DS for once in the years of this game instead of just giving LS all the faction only unlocks. Truthfully it’s not, but for them it is for some reason.

Maybe it's a hidden CG agenda or a trend, who knows...

"Kyno;c-1772529" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772522" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772512" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772446" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772444" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772439" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772436" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772411" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1772407" wrote:

"dimi4a;c-1772401" wrote:
The Falcon is so OP that it destroyed the rock-paper-scissors element of ships!

Ships has never had a rock paper scissors layout.

At best you could use a different capital ship but still ~80% same ships.

They seem to be fleshing out ships a bit and we cant expect every ship to be "the ship" every time, we need the support and backup to come about.

When HT was meta, it was beatable by a variety of ships and fleets. The Falcon is so OP that the only viable way to beat it is by using another Falcon fleet!

A variety is a stretch, but yes there was more than mirror matches, but still many of the same ships in both teams.

Well at least it was something, unlike now!

I agree, but the point is that as they develop more ships not every ship is going to the key ship to change things. That doesnt mean they wont be useful later.

That's exactly the problem with the shuttle - why wait for future ships in order for it to become viable, instead of just making it's abilities more powerful? Is that so hard? We already have enough Empire/Sith ships to pair it with!

Because that would then limit future releases as they would have to dialed back to keep the balance.

But there is no balance!

So you would rather it just swing wildly back and forth every time a new ship is released?

Maybe they were trying to listen to complaints that people didnt like the HT/mace stall meta, and broke that up with HMF. Players then complain that there is nothing but, so rather than release another OP ship they release the building blocks to the next meta to allow a more balanced shift.

That meta was already laughably easy to break with the Sith fleet under Tarkin. I know because the super kracken on my shard had that maxed out fleet and I was smashing it with my maxed out Tarkin Sith. So I don’t think that was why as the fleet already existed. It didn’t need HT either btw.