Executor is a beast? [MERGE]

https://youtu.be/xLkGD4Us9Zw
$200 invested in what was billed by developers as top of meta and nearly unbeatable at 7* and it is losing to leftovers. Refund or rework

So far I've heard of
- Male
- Nego
- Rebels
- Finalizer
beating various Executor fleets (different stars and lineups).

Gonna have to see if there's a super secret OP lineup that CG tested and wished us all "good luck" for but I don't see anything else than HT, RC and either XB, IG or S1 to be ideal.
And if the HT, RC, XB/IG/S1 lineup is alrdy the supposed best lineup and it getting beaten so easily by above fleets is WAI then that's a 10/10 joke and many ppl just wasted resources worth a 1/2 GL, bloated their roster and can very possibly enjoy facing opponents with a GL more now.

Scimitar is an interesting choice for that lineup. Are we sure there is not a better lineup that could work?

It's entirely possible that it's an offensive powerhouse and easily beatable on defense. Like SEE, the FO fleet, Imperial Troopers, etc.

If that's the case I'd be ecstatic and give CG a hesitant thumbs up. People were super worried about never being able to beat it, so if they can beat it with various different fleets, that could be a good thing. A lot of people hate fleets, so if there is a way to easily win on offense, but that same way doesn't just crush people on defense, I'd call it a win-win. But, it is still early, we'll have to wait and see.

"WD_40;c-2287081" wrote:
It's entirely possible that it's an offensive powerhouse and easily beatable on defense. Like SEE, the FO fleet, Imperial Troopers, etc.

If that's the case I'd be ecstatic and give CG a hesitant thumbs up. People were super worried about never being able to beat it, so if they can beat it with various different fleets, that could be a good thing. A lot of people hate fleets, so if there is a way to easily win on offense, but that same way doesn't just crush people on defense, I'd call it a win-win. But, it is still early, we'll have to wait and see.

Hard disagree, at this cost I want something that is only reliably beat in a mirror. I already can beat everything with Mal.

"Kyno;c-2287065" wrote:
Scimitar is an interesting choice for that lineup. Are we sure there is not a better lineup that could work?

Translation: Who that can afford to whale Executor to 7* is dumb enough to put Scimitar as a reinforce? Executor has ZERO Sith synergy.

"TVF;c-2287083" wrote:

"WD_40;c-2287081" wrote:
It's entirely possible that it's an offensive powerhouse and easily beatable on defense. Like SEE, the FO fleet, Imperial Troopers, etc.

If that's the case I'd be ecstatic and give CG a hesitant thumbs up. People were super worried about never being able to beat it, so if they can beat it with various different fleets, that could be a good thing. A lot of people hate fleets, so if there is a way to easily win on offense, but that same way doesn't just crush people on defense, I'd call it a win-win. But, it is still early, we'll have to wait and see.

Hard disagree, at this cost I want something that is only reliably beat in a mirror. I already can beat everything with Mal.

I can understand that, but a whole lot of people were talking about how this would break ships, and the mirror meta was a genuine concern. If you give people a way to basically beat any fleet on offense, it eases the minds of those who absolutely loathe fleets. I know the easier solution is to just invest in and get better at fleets, but that's been the solution since fleets came out and the complaint (valid or not) hasn't gone away. Perhaps it's a way to get people more interested in the fleets game mode, if you give them an easier offensive win at a high price, but then don't just kill the people who can't/don't get executor off the bat when it's on defense.

Executor is basically a GL (or demi GL) fleet with it's steep requirements and should therefor be an absolute beast.

IMO it should be like:

Executor should NOT be beaten by ANY Malevolence (which usually consists of 2 non-pilot ships and g12-13 SF and Spy, maybe HT as emergency RI) - basically a low-investment fleet.

Executor should NOT be beaten by all the other lower tier fleets (Rebels, Finalizer, Empire, Raddus, Mace).

Executor CAN be beaten by Negotiator if it's a pretty much maxed out Nego AND the win rate with the ideal lineup and gameplay is like 50% at best (preferably around 25-33%).

Executor at 7 stars CAN be beaten by Executor at lower stars if the win rate is like ~75% at best.



Currently it's defensive peformance does not pay tribute to our investment.

Teams that are beasts on offense but poor in defense makes the most “fun” gameplay in my opinion. Now I don’t feel so bad about the delayed conquest costing me a day 1 unlock of the executor.

Pointing out Scimitar's lack of synergy with Executor while ignoring that the FO fleet that beat it used GR and Empire reinforcements... lol.