Executor is a beast? [MERGE]

If you watched the CubsFanHan interview with CG_Miller, Miller was sooo proud of his baby and chuckled at the question if anyone would challenge the 7* Executor outside a mirror match. Not even 8 hours of release, practically every fleet can beat said "new meta".

I am ashamed I drank the Kool-aid and was so desperate for Zeta mats that I bought into the hype. I hoped there would be at least one area I could well if I made the investment. Lesson learned.

"Vendraen;c-2287122" wrote:

"WD_40;c-2287120" wrote:

"SurvivorM;c-2287110" wrote:
Well, it could be better to balance new "meta" fleet as JKR time ago: very hard to impossible to beat at start - then give (for example) GR new ship (=BSF back days) that makes it easier (not 100%). I'm not sure this VERY beatable new flagship is a good return on investments given all the hype from devs, that's kinda a shame on them.

I still would want to see how it performs on offense before we scold CG. If it is mediocre to terrible on offense, then yeah, bad on CG. But if it beats everything on offense, and is beatable on defense, then it isn't so severely limiting those that don't have it yet.

The problem is that it was described as if it were very, very difficult if not impossible to beat with old meta. "Good luck" was what was said. And in the interview, they stated maxed GET2 ships would "have a chance" to beat a 4* Executor fleet. "Have a chance" that's it. That's 4*.

IIRC that was mostly tongue-in-cheek, but I may be wrong on that

"WD_40;c-2287128" wrote:

"LordDirt;c-2287115" wrote:
It should not be easily beatable for all you need to unlock it.

Would you prefer it to be only beaten in mirrors? If it is terrible on both offense and defense, then yeah that really sucks. But if it can beat anything in the game, and is beatable, then that still leaves the door open for non-whales, for younger fleet shards at least. Not long ago, a lot of the community was upset that f2p, non-GL counters to GLs were being taken away, but now f2p fleets beating a pseudo-GL ship is a terrible thing? Maybe it should be better on defense, but there are plenty of High investment teams on the character side of the game that can be beaten by much lower investment when they're on defense (DR beaten by Imperial Troopers, GAS beaten by Bounty Hunters, CLS beaten by GG(though GG is a higher investment than the Imp Troopers and Bounty Hunters))

Yes, it was advertised as mirrors would be the only thing to beat it.

This is what they do with every team, ever.

Sell the bun

Wait for whales to bite

Whales notice its off

Sell the meat

And there you have a full burger

"Barik_Edo;c-2287100" wrote:
Pointing out Scimitar's lack of synergy with Executor while ignoring that the FO fleet that beat it used GR and Empire reinforcements... lol.

Lol, while ignoring the fact that we do not have a full FO fleet......... just supposed to leave those spots empty?

"Kabbage;c-2287129" wrote:
If you watched the CubsFanHan interview with CG_Miller, Miller was sooo proud of his baby and chuckled at the question if anyone would challenge the 7* Executor outside a mirror match. Not even 8 hours of release, practically every fleet can beat said "new meta".

I am ashamed I drank the Kool-aid and was so desperate for Zeta mats that I bought into the hype. I hoped there would be at least one area I could well if I made the investment. Lesson learned.

I'm not trying to defend CG, and disappointment is understandable but the ship has just been released. Maybe give it a bit more time before concluding that it's not worth the investment?

"Kyno;c-2287134" wrote:

"Barik_Edo;c-2287100" wrote:
Pointing out Scimitar's lack of synergy with Executor while ignoring that the FO fleet that beat it used GR and Empire reinforcements... lol.

Lol, while ignoring the fact that we do not have a full FO fleet......... just supposed to leave those spots empty?

That sounds like a CG issue. Maybe rather than making a new cap ship, they should finish the other ones ?

Restricting any assists vs Executor except mirrors is the way to fix most of it fast )

"SurvivorM;c-2287137" wrote:
Restricting any assists vs Executor except mirrors is the way to fix most of it fast )

Why can't it just be a beast on offence and suck of defence?

It already beats all fleets, thats powerful enough, I get it, whales wanna hold their #1 and not play the game, all day every day (Not that they need it, when they can just by everything, 400 crystals, chump change to them).

"xGriiMErZ;c-2287138" wrote:

"SurvivorM;c-2287137" wrote:
Restricting any assists vs Executor except mirrors is the way to fix most of it fast )

Why can't it just be a beast on offence and suck of defence?

It already beats all fleets, thats powerful enough, I get it, whales wanna hold their #1 and not play the game, all day every day (Not that they need it, when they can just by everything, 400 crystals, chump change to them).

Because we already have Neg and Mal.