Executor is a beast? [MERGE]

Oh well it didn't cost me anything to get 7* executor... Saved up crystals sure but that's what they are there for. New toys for my opponent to deal with next GAC round

"kello_511;c-2287435" wrote:

"loveremoval;c-2287403" wrote:

"Canadafett;c-2287392" wrote:

"AlexanderG;c-2287390" wrote:
This already reminds me of that epic "SEE definitely needs a buff" thread.

SEE was advertised as on par of the old GLs, it was.

This was advertised to be the new meta and it's on par with old meta

Exactly. However, I'm not going to cry foul *yet*. If they tweak the performance and/or add other ships that truly make my *meta* investment worth it, I'll be ok.

If the status quo remains then I'll be asking for refunds. I don't need another fleet that cost a fortune for DSTB and GAC.

Keep in mind that adding ships means that you will need to “invest” more to get the meta you thought you were getting today.

Or you’ll have to wait to get those new ships, which really means that what you “invested” today on your 7* today was probably not necessary (since you are waiting anyway).

Either way, having new ships as the answer seems a bit dirty based on what we were told about this ship.

Yep, I hear what you are saying. Especially regarding the speed and size of investment.

It was a considerable investment. More than JMK in new crystals because I had been hoarding for a while.

To have done it in order to save time (which is the primary reason) and to then have to wait for new ships and invest further leaves a particularly bad taste in my mouth now that I think about it more.

I think that maybe we misinterpreted how powerful this ship would be.

They said that it's power would be in line with the unlock requirements. Seeing r8 toons and a bunch of relic characters, I assumed massive power jump.

But consider this: the investment to have any of the fleets up to the point where they can beat all other fleets is huge as well.

Rebels, for example. I use this as the example, as that is a "beat anything fleet" I have going.

First there is all the ships used in the fleet every time. HMF, Biggs X-Wing, Bistan U-Wing, Cassian U-Wing, Y-Wing. Third and fourth reinforcement flex, but you'll want them 7 stars with decent crew to save the bad rng runs.

Biggs, Bistan and SRP, I found needed to be relic to be reliable. Cassian crew are 2 g12 with one relic. HMF crew R7. Ackbar is r4 for the speed.

Second there is the pre-requisites for some of those characters.
To get chewy, needed 5 bounty hunters 7 star and g11 to g12.

To get HMF needed 4 bounty hunter ships and their pilots - some different to the chewy ones.

So there are 7 relic characters in there, 11 ships to 7 star. And the 4 bounty hunter ships and toons never feature in the fleet battles where I use it.

Compare to Executor

7 7 star ships, all of which could be used in the final fleet.
7 relic characters, all but one of which could be used in the final fleet.
Yes there are 2 r8 in there.

But the cost of getting this fleet up and running from scratch is not a big step up from getting any fleet up and running.

So it's only that much more powerful.

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

I will not be fooled twice. Very disappointed with the money I have spent on this game, to have a very mediocre ship. Definitely does not feel like a "new" meta. Expected this was going to be required to compete based on all the hype, hence whaled. Won't happen again I can promise you that.

People need to remember that this game runs on people spending money. F2P does not keep the game they enjoy running; paying customers do. When you pay for something you expect to get something of value in return. This does not feel like I have gotten value, so will not be fooled again into spending so much money on something that feels so worthless.

This may well be the nail in the coffin for this game, as it slowly declines.

Just my 2 cents.

"hsv216;c-2287455" wrote:
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

I will not be fooled twice. Very disappointed with the money I have spent on this game…

You’re still missing it! :D

I get people spent to get a powerful ship, but I don’t understand everyone’s desire to have only one ship in the meta.

I hate doing mirror matches. If they buff the ship so that’s the only viable option, I imagine most people will just stop playing fleets again once they remember how tedious it is to do mirror matches every day.

One of my guild mates already has 20+ Executors in their shard. They’re not looking forward to those mirrors everyday.

"Fathertaylor;c-2287459" wrote:


One of my guild mates already has 20+ Executors in their shard. They’re not looking forward to those mirrors everyday.

I do negotiator mirrors (R7 vs R8) everyday. Couldn't be much worse with Executor mirror.

"Antario;c-2287461" wrote:

"Fathertaylor;c-2287459" wrote:


One of my guild mates already has 20+ Executors in their shard. They’re not looking forward to those mirrors everyday.

I do negotiator mirrors (R7 vs R8) everyday. Couldn't be much worse with Executor mirror.

well that's your decision. I find malevolence much more fun than negotiators.

"wildnz;c-2287438" wrote:
Ironic we get a reminder about upcoming character changes , that are explained in part as ensuring any counter has a comparable investment to the team it is countering. The same philosophy does not seem to have been applied with Executor. The big caveat , and it is big , is we don't get to see the future like CG do. The criticism is understandable given the frustration , but let's give them time to show us the finished product. The only feedback I have for CG is, if indeed we will see new ships to take the Executor to the top of the meta on defense, why antagonize your customers and put yourself in this position. Why not announce a full roadmap ?

The investment for the other fleets is only slightly lower than what has to go into Executor. It's just people have already done it in the past.

Almost everything you put into Executor is going to be used within the finished fleet. Can't say that for a rebel fleet (chewy and HMF unlocks) for example. Or for the GET2 cap ships. Lots of investment all over roster to improve GET2 income.

I think the Executor being a bit better is about right for the comparative cost.

Investment on Mal isn't even close.