Executor is a beast? [MERGE]

"Nauros;c-2287996" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2287975" wrote:

"Nauros;c-2287927" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-2287926" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2287922" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-2287919" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2287914" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-2287910" wrote:
If CG really sold us a broken fleet that can only be fixed by a new marquee ship, that is about as low as it can get.

Avoiding unsubstantiated speculation can increase enjoyment of life, and even prevent hair loss.

Not completely unsubstantiated. Something here isn’t working and CG admitted it.

Either they didn’t test or they only tested with a new ship we don’t have.

I doubt they didn’t test.

Correct, admitting they are looking at the current setup, as it's not hitting the mark.

That is literally the opposite of needing to add a new element to it to make it work.

Those are not the only options.

"Nauros;c-2287918" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2287914" wrote:

"slickdealer;c-2287910" wrote:
If CG really sold us a broken fleet that can only be fixed by a new marquee ship, that is about as low as it can get.

Avoiding unsubstantiated speculation can increase enjoyment of life, and even prevent hair loss.

Dunno, expecting Dengar's ship sounds pretty substantiated to me, given that he is the only requirement without a ship. As well as the expectation that it will improve Executor fleets, because there wouldn't be much of a point otherwise.

Substantiating something with a feeling..... here I was thinking evidence.... but you do you.

The last time a unit came out that was this underperforming it was Darth Revan.

We got Malak a week or two after.

Also, expecting Dengar's ship makes sense in several aspects, but Kyno just has to be a contrarian. No point trying to reason with him.

He doesnt have a ship, that can be said for a fair amount of characters, many of which are very noted pilots.

What other reasons have been given?

I'm not being contrarian, I'm just looking for the writing on the wall that doesnt seem to be there.

He's the only one of the requirements without a ship. If the requirements are meant to provide a ready-made fleet, it would make sense for him to get one.

The requirements are meant to get you to dump resources into toons that most likely wouldn't otherwise have had such gear and relics because they're not inherently that good. At least he's not darth sidious, although usually with this level of resources you start to get close to both a GL *and* a fleet (JMK/nego, SLK/finalizer, JML/rebels)--although this is part of the reason why executor is currently a sort of bloat or reverse-sandbagging where your roster might be a little stronger but you're setting yourself up for getting matched in GAC and TW against an extra GL.

"Shadow1989;c-2288003" wrote:
Has people forgotten about the high fire single damage yet?

CG definitely needs to send their staffs for grammar classes

At least they say that if your GAC opponent had a 7* Omega and you didn’t that you may be sacrificing a zone.

So much whining in this thread. Our shard has someone sitting in 1st place for the past 14 hrs straight with a 7* Exec with the r7 RC + r6 HT + r8 S1 lineup. I burned 800 crystals last night trying to beat it. I could not. Granted I do not have a relic’d out Rebels fleet, so maybe that would still kill it, but it is definitely worse than a 95% chance that I can beat it with anything else. There was only 1 attempt out of ~15 where I had a chance, and that was because the opening expose failed to land on my Vulture, which allowed him to live long enough to get buzz droids out. I still lost anyway.

"Vodkasour00;c-2288010" wrote:
So much whining in this thread. Our shard has someone sitting in 1st place for the past 14 hrs straight with a 7* Exec with the r7 RC + r6 HT + r8 S1 lineup. I burned 800 crystals last night trying to beat it. I could not. Granted I do not have a relic’d out Rebels fleet, so maybe that would still kill it, but it is definitely worse than a 95% chance that I can beat it with anything else. There was only 1 attempt out of ~15 where I had a chance, and that was because the opening expose failed to land on my Vulture, which allowed him to live long enough to get buzz droids out. I still lost anyway.

Whining post about whining

"slickdealer;c-2288011" wrote:

"Vodkasour00;c-2288010" wrote:
So much whining in this thread. Our shard has someone sitting in 1st place for the past 14 hrs straight with a 7* Exec with the r7 RC + r6 HT + r8 S1 lineup. I burned 800 crystals last night trying to beat it. I could not. Granted I do not have a relic’d out Rebels fleet, so maybe that would still kill it, but it is definitely worse than a 95% chance that I can beat it with anything else. There was only 1 attempt out of ~15 where I had a chance, and that was because the opening expose failed to land on my Vulture, which allowed him to live long enough to get buzz droids out. I still lost anyway.

Whining post about whining

My post isn’t complaining about not being able to beat the person. I don’t care. The intent of my post is to say that everyone here complaining that this ship is easily beatable seem (to me) to be wrong

"slickdealer;c-2288011" wrote:

"Vodkasour00;c-2288010" wrote:
So much whining in this thread. Our shard has someone sitting in 1st place for the past 14 hrs straight with a 7* Exec with the r7 RC + r6 HT + r8 S1 lineup. I burned 800 crystals last night trying to beat it. I could not. Granted I do not have a relic’d out Rebels fleet, so maybe that would still kill it, but it is definitely worse than a 95% chance that I can beat it with anything else. There was only 1 attempt out of ~15 where I had a chance, and that was because the opening expose failed to land on my Vulture, which allowed him to live long enough to get buzz droids out. I still lost anyway.

Whining post about whining

maybe this was the real fleet meta all along

"slickdealer;c-2287919" wrote:


I doubt they didn’t test.

You must be new :D

"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2287958" wrote:
Seems to me this is CG's MO as of late. JMK, even with KAM, was a reliable win with older metas. DR without Malak was a semi-reliable win with JKR or EP.

I'm not defending CG nor am I saying Dengar's ship is coming and will make Executor crazy dominant, but I think those that rushed this ship should have known this was a reasonable possibility. I'd still be angry if I were them, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Somewhat different situation though since they stated up front that the new GLs were intended to be at a similar level to existing ones, they didn't tout them as a new meta defining level above as they did with Executor

In the interview with CG_Miller and CubsFanHan, CG said they do all their testing at the highest gea/relic level. This could explain the performance disparity.

The R8 Piett 7* being too fast is an issue for the mirror versus low star, and a minor one versus other fleets, but certainly needs addressed. Yet I feel the community response has been quite an overreaction. Yes other fleets can beat it but the consistency of those counters is no where near 100%. Looking at as low as 30-40% for some counters and even then that is with some heavy investment in non meta characters (rebels) to anywhere near a higher win rate.

People like to post the win videos yet miss out the many fails and bad RNG in the process.

Comparison between the ship and GLs is flawed as well past the gear requirements. Ultimately the ship should have been like a GL with character Relic and ship star reqs and a unique fleet currency to farm the star levels. Then add in a unique fleet ultimate material to unlock the ultimate at 7* (that would have prevented the low star mirrors!)

You can unlock a GL anytime yet only have a 1 day a month period to unlock and level this ship. It’s Apple and oranges.