Feature Request: Remove Abandon button from Heroic tier raids

"TVF;c-2145295" wrote:

"hunchew;c-2145286" wrote:
And I am specifically talking ONLY ABOUT Heroic Raids. Leave if for lower level. Just grey/disable it for Heroic tier. Don't even have to change the screens. Just disable the button handler.

You trust CG to make a change that only affects heroic? Ok.

Have to start somewhere.

It isn't even that it is necessary for heroic raids. It isn't a major issue though. Just avoid pushing it and don't anger guild officers to the extent that they want to inflict pain on your guild before they leave.

The second one sounds like a guild problem rather than a game problem. And accidentally quitting a raid is user error. The dev's shouldn't be expected to hold your hand against guild problems or user error.

And you haven't considered opportunity cost. Any development time (however small it may be) that is spent removing a button that does not need removed is time they aren't spending giving us new content or fixing bigger problems.

I don't know how much more time it were would take to remove the button only for heroic raids but it is probably all coded together since that would be what makes sense since the feature is the same for all tiers. And removing it fir all tiers is not a good option since it would hurt newer guilds. And it would almost definitely take up more time to separate the code for the button. More time than it is worth.

I'd rather get many other older features. Maybe a sim for the hat for example would be better than this. Or for them to focus on their new game mode so we get it sooner or with less bugs.

"TVF;c-2144940" wrote:
It's really not though, IIRC it's way on the left side where there's nothing else to push so you can't even blame muscle memory.

Plus the confirmation needed.

One time I took my phone out of my pocket and the screen said are you sure you want to abandon this raid?

I had already pocket opened and cycled to this point. One more click and it would have been gone. Turns out cellophane activates some phone screens... Good info if u ever wanna cover tracks and hide from the Empire.

While I do agree it's not really something they should spend time on, I also agree there's a much "simpler" fix because it would extend to all the raids (and possibly the TB selection). Someone above mentioned they could make it so a second officer has to confirm the abandonment.

@TVF and others make obviously valid points, but accidental stuff can happen. This week my 7 month old was sitting with me and I was checking in on the game. I'd gotten to the guild screen, and he spit up all over himself and I. In the haste to clean up the infant gift, I had gotten him cleaned up and was attending to myself as I watched him grab my phone, pick it up and start to wrangle it towards his mouth. I got a clean hand and snatched it before he was chomping away.

I looked down at the screen and saw he'd somehow gotten to the guild events screen, and selected Hoth TB and abandoned us from the Geo. ??? Now it was obviously no big deal as we had two days until the start. I just changed it back to Geo easy peasy, but we had an HSTR that had just started, and I couldn't help but be grateful he hadn't gone in and accidentally abandoned that raid.

So while the chances of it are slim, accidents are possible and that slight tweak of needing another officer's approval would solve it. If it were something they had any interest in addressing, which is more than likely little if any.

Second officer to confirm would be a good start at least if they dont want to remove the abandon raid button from heroic. Few weeks back we had an officer who accidentally abandoned the heroic sith raid an hour before join phase was over because they'd been drinking most of the day.

"TVF;c-2145934" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2145879" wrote:

"TVF;c-2144940" wrote:
It's really not though, IIRC it's way on the left side where there's nothing else to push so you can't even blame muscle memory.

Plus the confirmation needed.

One time I took my phone out of my pocket and the screen said are you sure you want to abandon this raid?

I had already pocket opened and cycled to this point. One more click and it would have been gone. Turns out cellophane activates some phone screens... Good info if u ever wanna cover tracks and hide from the Empire.

So don't put it in your pocket with the screen on, problem solved.

Or don't keep cellophane in pocket? With phone.. with screen on...

"CCyrilS;c-2146183" wrote:

"TVF;c-2145934" wrote:

"BobcatSkywalker;c-2145879" wrote:

"TVF;c-2144940" wrote:
It's really not though, IIRC it's way on the left side where there's nothing else to push so you can't even blame muscle memory.

Plus the confirmation needed.

One time I took my phone out of my pocket and the screen said are you sure you want to abandon this raid?

I had already pocket opened and cycled to this point. One more click and it would have been gone. Turns out cellophane activates some phone screens... Good info if u ever wanna cover tracks and hide from the Empire.

So don't put it in your pocket with the screen on, problem solved.

Or don't keep cellophane in pocket? With phone.. with screen on...

Bobcat doesn't live by your rules.

While having a second officer confirm Is a nice concept, it's not practical. There are too many moving parts to that that have to be synchronized through the server. It would be much slower (consider how long it takes to accept guild invite), a lot more complicated code-wise, and a lot more prone to error conditions and thus bugs.
We, as a community, already worry about the number bugs constantly introduced and or not fixed in a timely manner.

The original idea multiple orders of magnitude simpler, both conceptually and technologically. But it seems like there are those that don't see it as a problem at all.
I guess they have never had to deal with it.
Having been bitten by it a few times over course of playing this game for a few years, I thought this would have been worth thinking about.

Alas, it is unlikely to happen if this is the community respond. I leave you now with your "more worthy" content of Tier 3 Challenge Assault battles. Now there is a worthwhile use of CG resources.

This button is absurd and anyone defending it is just wrong. It's a Do Not Press button in the middle of a highly trafficked screen that does nothing but distribute pain to 50 people at once. Enough is enough. It should go. Now.