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DarthAceSolo's avatar
DarthAceSolo
Seasoned Traveler
3 months ago

Feels good losing to a cheater

Sure does.

Opponent dropped 8 battles. I dropped 1. He saved top for last 15 minutes. The drops were all bottom walls.

So we're trading blow for blows. Now here comes the cheating. My top row was jmk with plo cron. Gungans with support cron. Quagme with Qui gon cron and great mothers with GM cron. Opponent beat mothers...cool. beat quagme...cool. gungans ok. Jmk...in 2 minutes...hell no. 2 of my fleets in 4 minutes....doubly hell no. His jmk was on defense so no mirror. This guy dropped 8 battles on bottom walls and then suddenly one shot those named teams fast plus 2 ships. With 7 minutes left, because I checked, he beat gungans and JMK plus 2 fleets...to snipe.

He told me my defenses were weak despite dropping 8 battles...then suddenly ripped off 4 one shots and 2 fleets. 

So like I said, feels good that it took some cheating to lose. And it was probably a case of he wasn't going to, but when he realized he was going to lose, resorted to it. 

Dissapointing but still doing work against the honest players. Keep up the banning EA and CG. If it's only one thing you get right in this game, since testing isn't on the docket, at least getting the cheaters out. Keep grinding.

  • The history for this battle is now available here: https://swgoh.gg/p/446978345/gac-history/O1729026000000/2/

    Guess what? No sign of anything suspicious. OP’s opponent used counters with high success rates on swgoh.gg to clear that top row fortress, and the “hell no” battles were as follows: 

    • Third sister v JMK with Plo DC in 2m 8s. Win rate is 77% for this precise matchup, though I don’t have Insight so can’t drill down to analyse the DCs. It’s notable that OP’s Plo DC has the “wrong” level 6 ability, which would make his team easier to beat. (Interestingly enough, OP beat the same JMK lineup but with the correct Plo DC in only 1 minute, but then they have whaled on Marrok, which might explain why this particular battle is not a “hell no” but their opponent beating their JMK was)
    • Classic Exec lineup beat Malevolence in 1m 35s. No issues there. 
    • Classic Levi lineup beat Prof in 1m 52s. Again, no issues there - I fight this battle once a day in Fleet arena and usually finish before the timer hits 3 mins left, so I know this is normal. (Don’t be distracted by Rebel Ywing still having protection - Sith Fighter ignores protection on debuffed enemies)
    • It’s obvious that the several drops their opponent had were attempts to beat teams with off-meta counters, looking to preserve meta teams for the final battles. In the end, they had to use JML for that Talzin team having failed with lower level stuff. 

    As we’ve seen,DarthAceSolo  has a history of being a sore loser and is probably salty that their opponent rope-a-doped them into thinking they’d done enough only to sneak past them in the dying minutes. 

    I’m sure a dignified retraction of the cheating accusation will be forthcoming. 

    • kytra2015's avatar
      kytra2015
      Seasoned Newcomer

      Ouch this is a good takedown. Maybe OP will learn something 

  • You have a history of making cheating allegations but don’t appear to ever follow up with genuine evidence from swgoh.gg :

    https://forums.ea.com/discussions/swgoh-general-discussion-en/mmm-cheating-continues-in-gac/4960882

    https://forums.ea.com/discussions/swgoh-general-discussion-en/on-a-scale-from-1-to-cheating-/4504126/replies/4504139

    In a few days you can back your allegation up or retract it by checking this page:

    https://swgoh.gg/p/337874449/gac-history/

    I imagine that CG will require a little more than you not believing something is possible to be convinced someone is cheating. 

  • Interestingly, the OP cleared all 3 of their opponents fleets in under 5 mins in a recent round. 

    Given that OP tends to set a sub-optimal Levi lineup, a Prof lineup with sub-optimal reinforcements and Malevolence, I don’t think it’s at all out of the question for someone to clear 2 of those fleets in 4 mins. 

    • DarthAceSolo's avatar
      DarthAceSolo
      Seasoned Traveler

      Tell me when I did that. I'd be interested in hearing that as well.

      • DarjeloSalas's avatar
        DarjeloSalas
        New Veteran

        In this match here: 

        https://swgoh.gg/p/337874449/gac-history/O1728421200000/1/

  • He saved hard counters for top and then salvaged what he could against your bottom sections. Doesn't seem suspicious that he had 8 drops in the bottom sections and none on the top. The time does, but I also suspect you may not be 100% truthful on exactly how much time it took for the battles. Sorry.

    As someone else has indicated, when the report comes out on swgoh.gg you will have the evidence you want, or justification for an apology.

  • I'm sorry, but I don't think I have ever seen one instance of cheating on here where the person "tried" to play legit and then resorted to cheating.  It has always been JMK gets beat by g6 CUP and friends in 20 seconds in every battle.  Certainly not 8 failed attempts and then a two minute full clear.  While a bit of an unorthodox strategy to save your best for last, it doesn't mean he cheated.  I think a lot of people wait until last minute with GAC now or only do the minimum to win.  It is easy to get fed up with trying a full clear every time, especially when there is so much to do in the game besides GAC.

  • kytra2015's avatar
    kytra2015
    Seasoned Newcomer

    totally possible to do that and not cheat. He simply kept the hard counters for the top zone while struggling to win piecemeal if necessary the other battles. As for a ship battle in 2 minutes, that depends on the fleets involved (and skill ofc) but it is doable. Wait to see history before making cheating allegations

  • Hackusating without any proof is crazy. You've given no evidence except for the "he was dropping battles and then he stopped" argument

    • DarjeloSalas's avatar
      DarjeloSalas
      New Veteran

      Either he is SithEternalSarge (the ally code was posted in one of Meathead’s community engagement threads) or he has bought the account. 

      • DarthNosf3ratu's avatar
        DarthNosf3ratu
        Seasoned Newcomer

        So it's irrelevant that we consistently get handed unfair matchups? How is that any different? That's the definition of chrating... losing due to being taken advantage of. Your comment was irrelevant