I've been quiet since the patch because I understand the need for bugs to be found, changes to be made, and things will need to be addressed but I witnessed something today that is just downright wrong... and it hasn't happened only "once" and others in my guild are seeing the same thing. So anyone reading this save your RNG garbage.In Arena I watched my 8+ gear, 7*, Dooku led, FULL LIFE (4 chars left, Dooku, GS, Lumi, and Yoda) get obliterated by 5s all by himself. Not only did he do that but he was still in the green before the end. This is clearly a huge imbalance that needs to be set right. He got so many bonus attacks it was completely unfair.If you're going to make him counter and bonus that much then remove the 50% damage increase from his 85% counter chance otherwise it's never going to balance. Rex was leading in the opposing party but I don't see anything in his leader that warrants extra attacks.

Lvl 76 he has bonus attack if you get a speed debuff

Its Fives basic attack at level 8.

I've seen people reporting that his basic ability 8 is bugged, so instead of only double shooting people with speed down, he does it all the time, and remember that counter attacks uses the basic attack

He gets destroyed by stunners. Also, the bonus attacks are only against targets with speed down. There are a lot of ways to prevent that as well.

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oOgaletteOo
9 years ago
Lvl 76 he has bonus attack if you get a speed debuff
AchillesAT
9 years ago
Its Fives basic attack at level 8.
cosmicturtle333
9 years ago
He is currently bugged.
Ztyledk
9 years ago
I've seen people reporting that his basic ability 8 is bugged, so instead of only double shooting people with speed down, he does it all the time, and remember that counter attacks uses the basic attack
medetec
9 years ago
He gets destroyed by stunners.

Also, the bonus attacks are only against targets with speed down. There are a lot of ways to prevent that as well.
Player_tjsnk0t4
9 years ago
FYI, Savage is a good counter for him. Yesterday I had my maxed out Savage at full health and an almost dead GS against full protection level 78 Fives (with level 8 basic) and stealthed Leia (Protection was gone but she had full health). Savage was the last one standing.
liamchandler
9 years ago
Doesn't rex lead give TM on recieving crits...? This doesn't warrent extra turns?
Cookie_Crisp135
9 years ago
"cosmicturtle333;322269" wrote:
He is currently bugged.

This claim of bugged is based on the interpretation of when the second attack should do its check. If, like me, you believe this check should occur after the completion of the first attack, then it is clearly NOT bugged.
If you believe that the second attack check should occur prior to the completion of the first attack, then it clearly IS bugged.
I base my opinion on the precedent set by FOTP with secondary attack triggers based off of increased proc rates due to a buff (or debuff) check after the primary attack.
xxMikexxHonchox
9 years ago
"Aero;322343" wrote:
"cosmicturtle333;322269" wrote:
He is currently bugged.

His ability reads, "Deal physical damage to target enemy and inflict Speed Down for 2 turns. Attack again if enemy is inflicted with Speed Down."

I used to be aligned with @cosmicturtle333 on this one. I even replied on another's post he was bugged. But after re-reading the description yes, he is NOT bugged. "Attack again if enemy is inflicted with speed down." IOW if 5's hits you and lands a speed down, yes, he gets a "bonus" attack.
5's doesn't always get his speed down to stick: high tenacity toons or tenacity up from Rex or Yoda will prevent the infliction of speed down, thus no second attack. But if 5's hits you and he inflicts speed down, which again isn't 100%, yes he will attack again
Lunarwolf
9 years ago
I love my fives, but agree that he is OP. same is true for Kylo and his counters. these toons have way too much HP.

problem is ppl only look at basic damage and say they do no damage. they don't consider additional damage from specials, speed downs, cooldown resets and counters which increases their average dps more than you would think at face value. now with huge HP it is glaring as fights are much longer

ie try a one on one with Kylo or Fives vs QGJ or Rey. Kylo/Fives will come up on top 100% of the time with green HP! sure you can kill them if you spam stun them but that is true for any character in game,