GA division bracket

"Jack1210;c-2078841" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2078003" wrote:

"TaTaKaS;c-2077427" wrote:

"GambrinusKluk;c-2077319" wrote:

"Tafkae;c-2077300" wrote:
Even though the divisions are GP based, you still get matched up against opponents with a similar roster to yours. I finally hit 4.5m and was very worried going into this GAC, but all of my opponents have been within ~200k of me. Honestly all the divisions do is change your rewards

Actually you don't, me and many of my guildmates get matched against opponents with substantially larger gp and get slaughtered because of it.

You do not get slaughtered because of the GP difference. You get slaughtered probably because you have inferior roster, a result of bad decision making. To give you an example I go against much higher GP guys but their rosters are pretty bad because they for some reason have 2 maxed out teams and then some arbitrary relics, and teams with 2 g12 and 3 g9 characters.

Make better choices, stop complaining...

Cool story, incorrect though.
You can have a similar top 80 gp to an account that is over a million more GP than you.
That is not a good system.
Sure a lot of the match-ups people complain about are mostly fine, but you cant just say "git gud" to everything.

If your top 80 is similar, that other 1 million is irrelevant. If it is not irrelevant, that's your fault toons outside their top 80 are beating you.

Rubbish, in no way is it irrelevant.

So I have a few teams of full relic 7 because it was good for arena, so now my top 80 is tough, but it leaves my defence teams and other teams lacking compared to someone a mill GP higher than me, it’s okay though as I have a few relic 7 teams.

Other GP irrelevant I’ll have some of what you’re smoking.

But guess it’s my fault they’ve played for a lot longer and have a wider roster/ spent more or whatever.

"Lysandrax;c-2078923" wrote:

"Jack1210;c-2078841" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2078003" wrote:

"TaTaKaS;c-2077427" wrote:

"GambrinusKluk;c-2077319" wrote:

"Tafkae;c-2077300" wrote:
Even though the divisions are GP based, you still get matched up against opponents with a similar roster to yours. I finally hit 4.5m and was very worried going into this GAC, but all of my opponents have been within ~200k of me. Honestly all the divisions do is change your rewards

Actually you don't, me and many of my guildmates get matched against opponents with substantially larger gp and get slaughtered because of it.

You do not get slaughtered because of the GP difference. You get slaughtered probably because you have inferior roster, a result of bad decision making. To give you an example I go against much higher GP guys but their rosters are pretty bad because they for some reason have 2 maxed out teams and then some arbitrary relics, and teams with 2 g12 and 3 g9 characters.

Make better choices, stop complaining...

Cool story, incorrect though.
You can have a similar top 80 gp to an account that is over a million more GP than you.
That is not a good system.
Sure a lot of the match-ups people complain about are mostly fine, but you cant just say "git gud" to everything.

If your top 80 is similar, that other 1 million is irrelevant. If it is not irrelevant, that's your fault toons outside their top 80 are beating you.

Alright, you've suckered me in with your thimble deep idea.
If i have a great top 80, and this other guy has a great top 80, and then another great 80 after that.
In what world does the guy with the great 160 not have an indisputable advantage?

Now i know what you're already thinking you cheeky fulla, 'you can only use 80 toons' and you'd be darn well right i suppose.
But are you actually going to take thw position that you use exactly your top 80 toons and none beneath it? Because if you do, you're arguing with yourself, we cant agree. If you dont, they you aren't arguing anyway, you're just rambling and haven't thought about it as well as you think

Thanks jack

For a lot of ppl top 80 is all that matters because if you need a second battle to win a match, you've already lost the war.

For others it even comes down to having certain squads. But it isn't a static game... you need to adapt as you go. If you don't, you'll wind up a chronic complainer while the rest laugh at you.

A top 80 comparison is just stupid. We are in a match to get the best from the division!

Divisions are here to bring us into groups. They could do this with the top 80 chars. That would be okay and a fair division tbh.
According to matchmaking they should rank us against the people who have the same points.
Otherwise... There won't be a real #1!

Do you ever wonder why people with a tiny roster (but the same division) are higher and you know that you would beat them? How can they be #1? Bad matchmaking.

This system would be way better. Yeah you would battle the same opponents but you can get some rivals to battle, more fun, be the real #1 in the division.
Imagine that you battle the #1 at the leaderboard and you win! That would be insane.

Yeah for real. Im a 1.5 year player with a 4.4m gp. What sucks bad for gac is that the one thing i cant get with money is zetas. Now dont get me wrong as im not screaming this is unfair, but to the contrary how am i supposed to compete with players when i hit that last division. Its hard enough in divi 2 but once i hit 1 ill be playing with 6mil and on players with zetas all the way since they started. I could have a maxxed g13 roster with relics galore but at the end of the day i stand no chance again someone with a similar roster but has 100% more zetas than me or more. Something needs to change. A good idea would be seperate divisions into a 2nd tier of time played aswell and also add more divisions. Zetas rule the world and since they remain unbuyable it puts the newer whale players or newer players all together at a huge disadvantage.

"Akenno;c-2078992" wrote:
A top 80 comparison is just stupid. We are in a match to get the best from the division!

Divisions are here to bring us into groups. They could do this with the top 80 chars. That would be okay and a fair division tbh.
According to matchmaking they should rank us against the people who have the same points.
Otherwise... There won't be a real #1!

Do you ever wonder why people with a tiny roster (but the same division) are higher and you know that you would beat them? How can they be #1? Bad matchmaking.

This system would be way better. Yeah you would battle the same opponents but you can get some rivals to battle, more fun, be the real #1 in the division.
Imagine that you battle the #1 at the leaderboard and you win! That would be insane.

There will never be a real number 1 the person with the biggest and best roster will face people with the same sort of roster while people at the bottom of division 1 can still come top even though their roster would never compete with most of division 1.

It’s not really a test of who has the best roster tbh to be the true champ.

"Lysandrax;c-2078923" wrote:

"Jack1210;c-2078841" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2078003" wrote:

"TaTaKaS;c-2077427" wrote:

"GambrinusKluk;c-2077319" wrote:

"Tafkae;c-2077300" wrote:
Even though the divisions are GP based, you still get matched up against opponents with a similar roster to yours. I finally hit 4.5m and was very worried going into this GAC, but all of my opponents have been within ~200k of me. Honestly all the divisions do is change your rewards

Actually you don't, me and many of my guildmates get matched against opponents with substantially larger gp and get slaughtered because of it.

You do not get slaughtered because of the GP difference. You get slaughtered probably because you have inferior roster, a result of bad decision making. To give you an example I go against much higher GP guys but their rosters are pretty bad because they for some reason have 2 maxed out teams and then some arbitrary relics, and teams with 2 g12 and 3 g9 characters.

Make better choices, stop complaining...

Cool story, incorrect though.
You can have a similar top 80 gp to an account that is over a million more GP than you.
That is not a good system.
Sure a lot of the match-ups people complain about are mostly fine, but you cant just say "git gud" to everything.

If your top 80 is similar, that other 1 million is irrelevant. If it is not irrelevant, that's your fault toons outside their top 80 are beating you.

Alright, you've suckered me in with your thimble deep idea.
If i have a great top 80, and this other guy has a great top 80, and then another great 80 after that.
In what world does the guy with the great 160 not have an indisputable advantage?

Now i know what you're already thinking you cheeky fulla, 'you can only use 80 toons' and you'd be darn well right i suppose.
But are you actually going to take thw position that you use exactly your top 80 toons and none beneath it? Because if you do, you're arguing with yourself, we cant agree. If you dont, they you aren't arguing anyway, you're just rambling and haven't thought about it as well as you think

Thanks jack

I do agree some depth past top 80 can turn the tide, but I think anything past the top 80 starts to get hairier. I can't speak from experience in the high-end divisions, but at 3 mil GP I haven't had issues with the toons too far out of the top 60 (For D3 and D4). And like cyril posted, using stuff outside top 80 would likely mean a second attempt OR a undergeared counter attempt.

Maybe I’m naive but Adding 1 more high end division with new top tier rewards is exactly what CG should do.

Why would that not work? Why would they decrease the current rewards? That doesn’t make any sense. New challenge tiers were added with new rewards and the rewards for the previous difficulty levels stayed the same.

I’ll take that crate of crystals though... @BobcatSkywalker

"Paulos999;c-2079164" wrote:

"Akenno;c-2078992" wrote:
A top 80 comparison is just stupid. We are in a match to get the best from the division!

Divisions are here to bring us into groups. They could do this with the top 80 chars. That would be okay and a fair division tbh.
According to matchmaking they should rank us against the people who have the same points.
Otherwise... There won't be a real #1!

Do you ever wonder why people with a tiny roster (but the same division) are higher and you know that you would beat them? How can they be #1? Bad matchmaking.

This system would be way better. Yeah you would battle the same opponents but you can get some rivals to battle, more fun, be the real #1 in the division.
Imagine that you battle the #1 at the leaderboard and you win! That would be insane.

There will never be a real number 1 the person with the biggest and best roster will face people with the same sort of roster while people at the bottom of division 1 can still come top even though their roster would never compete with most of division 1.

It’s not really a test of who has the best roster tbh to be the true champ.

And that is the problem! People at the bottom shouldn't be able to be number 1 if they are not good enough. They can be number 1 in their own division and the same roster but don't put them in my division, otherwise let me battle them!

"Akenno;c-2079427" wrote:

"Paulos999;c-2079164" wrote:

"Akenno;c-2078992" wrote:
A top 80 comparison is just stupid. We are in a match to get the best from the division!

Divisions are here to bring us into groups. They could do this with the top 80 chars. That would be okay and a fair division tbh.
According to matchmaking they should rank us against the people who have the same points.
Otherwise... There won't be a real #1!

Do you ever wonder why people with a tiny roster (but the same division) are higher and you know that you would beat them? How can they be #1? Bad matchmaking.

This system would be way better. Yeah you would battle the same opponents but you can get some rivals to battle, more fun, be the real #1 in the division.
Imagine that you battle the #1 at the leaderboard and you win! That would be insane.

There will never be a real number 1 the person with the biggest and best roster will face people with the same sort of roster while people at the bottom of division 1 can still come top even though their roster would never compete with most of division 1.

It’s not really a test of who has the best roster tbh to be the true champ.

And that is the problem! People at the bottom shouldn't be able to be number 1 if they are not good enough. They can be number 1 in their own division and the same roster but don't put them in my division, otherwise let me battle them!

you obviously don't understand GAC. It's not "who has the best roster", it is "who uses their roster best". Why should someone who performs better be ranked under you if you suck? Just because you have higher GP? Nah.

Extra rewards for extra effort/upgrading.

I’d like to see CG take the top 2 Divisions and make 3.

What would the cut offs be?
- 5.75+ - Div 1
- 4.25 - 5.74 - Div 2
- 3.1 - 4.24 - Div 3