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Score should be hidden until over. My 2 cents.

"Sewpot;c-2364584" wrote:
Score should be hidden until over. My 2 cents.

Nope. If my opponent is just lazy enough to do one battle, I should be able to see that and adjust my fights accordingly (ie clearing a full territory of theirs) so that I spend my time efficiently. If the scores are hidden then we all have to go full tilt the entire time, which is in an aggravating time sink. If I can successfully win by beating a quadrant instead of multiple, that's a win in my books.
Imagine investing alot of time to attempting a full clear, just to find at the end of match the opponent did one battle. Times that by three opponents. I'd be ticked.

I almost always attack first and with a full clear the opp sometimes doesn't attack because they feel like it's a loss already. I've had more than one say that and those are folks that have all of, or the majority of, the GLs so sometimes attacking first can offer an advantage. To simply state that others that see things differently are bottom feeders only showcases a lack of intelligence.

We already went over the attack first vs attack second benefits and I blew that theory up with all the attack first wins I was getting.

"Rius;c-2364610" wrote:



Can you explain the competitive advantage?

I think it's fair to say there's an advantage for sure. Knowing what you need to do to win, massively changes how you will play (in the higher divisions anyway). If you know you can drop a battle or 2 and still win, if you know you don't have to full clear therefore prioritize an area or if you know you don't have the luxury of dropping battles where you can attempt to pinch banners. It 'can' and will in certain matches be a pretty sizable advantage.

I also think there's some other tactics regarding waiting, which I think has got me wins. I don't wish to discuss those though.

I think most players would care more about the uneven matchups than who moves first but what would I know, I'm just a bottom feeder in low end Kyber 1 beating opponents with more GP/GLs about 60% of the time by attacking when I'm ready.

"Rath_Tarr;c-2364646" wrote:
I think most players would care more about the uneven matchups than who moves first but what would I know, I'm just a bottom feeder in low end Kyber 1 beating opponents with more GP/GLs about 60% of the time by attacking when I'm ready.

I’m more than a million gp less than you and ranked about a thousand spots higher in K1 and I always make sure I go second and run about an 80% win rate. Clearly going second is a distinct advantage, I like when they go first and try to scare me with a full clear.

/s for the inevitable anecdotal evidence warriors.

"ImaSmakya;c-2364647" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2364646" wrote:
I think most players would care more about the uneven matchups than who moves first but what would I know, I'm just a bottom feeder in low end Kyber 1 beating opponents with more GP/GLs about 60% of the time by attacking when I'm ready.

I’m more than a million gp less than you and ranked about a thousand spots higher in K1 and I always make sure I go second and run about an 80% win rate. Clearly going second is a distinct advantage, I like when they go first and try to scare me with a full clear.

/s for the inevitable anecdotal evidence warriors.

You won / win because you have the roster that enables you to. That would still be the case if you went first.

Unless you think going second provides some hitherto unseen bonuses for your characters or puts a hex on your opponent.

"ImaSmakya;c-2364656" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2364652" wrote:

"ImaSmakya;c-2364647" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2364646" wrote:
I think most players would care more about the uneven matchups than who moves first but what would I know, I'm just a bottom feeder in low end Kyber 1 beating opponents with more GP/GLs about 60% of the time by attacking when I'm ready.

I’m more than a million gp less than you and ranked about a thousand spots higher in K1 and I always make sure I go second and run about an 80% win rate. Clearly going second is a distinct advantage, I like when they go first and try to scare me with a full clear.

/s for the inevitable anecdotal evidence warriors.

You have about 40 more skill rating. Well done, huge difference there! :D

It’s not about some made up number by CG, it’s about the difference in crystal income between a 60% win rate and an 80% win rate up to this point. I have no illusion that I will stay at that rate, but I also started a lot lower than you did when the initial seeding was done so I’ve had to win a lot more than you have to get to my placing and that means a lot more crystals. Does my roster/mods/strategy allow me to do that? Of course they do, but I use those things more efficiently when I go second.

But you don't know what your win rate would have been had you typically gone first. What you ascribe as a clear advantage has no basis in fact and would be immediately cobrradicted by a "go first" player that usually attacks first and enjoys a similar win rate.

"AlexanderG;c-2364653" wrote:

"ImaSmakya;c-2364647" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2364646" wrote:
I think most players would care more about the uneven matchups than who moves first but what would I know, I'm just a bottom feeder in low end Kyber 1 beating opponents with more GP/GLs about 60% of the time by attacking when I'm ready.

I’m more than a million gp less than you and ranked about a thousand spots higher in K1 and I always make sure I go second and run about an 80% win rate. Clearly going second is a distinct advantage, I like when they go first and try to scare me with a full clear.

/s for the inevitable anecdotal evidence warriors.

You won / win because you have the roster that enables you to. That would still be the case if you went first.

Unless you think going second provides some hitherto unseen bonuses for your characters or puts a hex on your opponent.

It’s not hitherto unseen, it’s simple math most of the time. In most cases, I don’t have the roster to stop the opponents I’m getting from getting a full clear, so it comes down to efficiency.

The case below, my opponent went first and full cleared me with less than stellar efficiency. Having seen that I knew that I didn’t have to one shot his Exec in my final battle. I only had to clear the zone so I could safely send in a burner fleet beforehand. If that info was not available, there is a very high chance I would have failed as I would have tried to one shot it and we all know what the success rate the Mal counter has now that they have “fixed” buzz droids.