GA matching system REwork!

A. You describe yourself as a very strategic player, but if your opponents (with same total roster GP) have 20 zetas and 25 g12 characters more than you, they apparently are more strategic minded than you.
B. Not farming hSTR until recently was a choice. Either a choice made by your guild to not work towards beating hSTR until recently, or a choice made by you to stay in the guild despite having no chance to farm hSTR. I'm sure, you (or your guild) had lots of good reasons to choose this, but nevertheless, it was a choice. You chose to not farm Traya and all that nice gear from hSTR.
C. Traya has several counters these days. Revan has a few.
D. I actually do think, that the match-making algorithm takes other things into account. I believe players with strong rosters are deliberately mixed with players of mediocre or weak rosters (with same total GP). I have no proof, but that's my experience so far.

"Waqui;c-1760000" wrote:
A. You describe yourself as a very strategic player, but if your opponents (with same total roster GP) have 20 zetas and 25 g12 characters more than you, they apparently are more strategic minded than you.
B. Not farming hSTR until recently was a choice. Either a choice made by your guild to not work towards beating hSTR until recently, or a choice made by you to stay in the guild despite having no chance to farm hSTR. I'm sure, you (or your guild) had lots of good reasons to choose this, but nevertheless, it was a choice. You chose to not farm Traya and all that nice gear from hSTR.
C. Traya has several counters these days. Revan has a few.
D. I actually do think, that the match-making algorithm takes other things into account. I believe players with strong rosters are deliberately mixed with players of mediocre or weak rosters (with same total GP). I have no proof, but that's my experience so far.

D. isn't that the natural outcome of GP being the only basis of matchmaking and GP not being an accurate measure of a roster's strength?

I think the OP is expressing a very common sentiment. There a lot of people out there with dead weight in their roster and struggling in Grand Arena against more efficient players. Until Grand Arena arrived, it didn't matter that much how you farmed or geared your 10th - 20th characters, and now suddenly (in relative terms) it is critical whether you took Farmboy Luke all the way to Gear 12 to unlock CLS, or did it with just the bare minimum.

Older accounts that chose to level characters that seemed cool instead of saving every credit to stay on meta and be ready for the next meta also suffer with dead weight characters inflating their GP. GA is harder on players who weren't that serious for there first few months of play, or chose to experiment with off-meta characters in pre-GA.

It's a flaw in a matching system based on GP. I don't know if there is a better system, but blaming it purely on 'choices' obscures the fact that most of these choices were made before GA was a thing.

"jonnydeathstar;c-1760011" wrote:
I think the OP is expressing a very common sentiment. There a lot of people out there with dead weight in their roster and struggling in Grand Arena against more efficient players. Until Grand Arena arrived, it didn't matter that much how you farmed or geared your 10th - 20th characters, and now suddenly (in relative terms) it is critical whether you took Farmboy Luke all the way to Gear 12 to unlock CLS, or did it with just the bare minimum.

It mattered in TW the same way it matters i GA. Many players just didn't realize it until now, where the impact of their fluff hurt themselves and not 'just' the guild.

It's a flaw in a matching system based on GP. I don't know if there is a better system, but blaming it purely on 'choices' obscures the fact that most of these choices were made before GA was a thing.

I don't see it as a flaw. I see it as a strength, that players, who developed their roster to be strong in TW and GA also benefit from it in GA and not only in TW.

Ship power should not be used for matchmaking if there is no ship territory present. And when there is one ship territory ship power should be calculated as (ship territory max possible points in attack and defense)/(total possible points)*ship power, because if my ship power is 40% of my total power its dumb that you get from it only 10-20% points. This way you are penalizing people that invested time and money in ships.

I do agree with the subject. I think that it's not in the mind of the game to promote low GP.

With this kind of game, the main goal should be "Gotta catch them all".

It's a bit like what happened with the zombie. People who had the normal behaviour of maximising the gear of the zombie, were penalized versus those who played the paper zombie.

So they did a rework because it was not in the spirit of the game to undergear a toon.

No Revan or Traya....womp, womp. :'(

I never really zeta a toon or gear them up unless they are either 7 stars or meta. So my GP is only 2.2mil Dec 15 shard

Reason for this is because of resource management , there is no way I can survive spending resources on fluff and still drive towards my goals whether that's getting revan or c3po.
My first round of GA I was up against traya and I'm still to unlock her . Did It matter no I still got the win (magma , thrawn).

My friend who started playing 6-9 months after me has more GP than me now ,all because he likes to gear his toons in preparation for the stars so loads of gear 8,9,10 toons at 3,4 stars .
If we where to ever get matched the fact I have double the g12 and triple the Zeta's it's a easy win.

Moral of the story is the game is about choices.
And choosing fluff doesn't benefit anyone in any game mode.
TB - 200k of fluff or 2 teams to clear the waves
TW -"" or 2 defence/attack
Arena - more counters to the meta or more fluff
GW - enough strong teams for stages or fluff
GA - do I need say more.

Here's my solution, let us bring in only what we want to bring in. If you think you can do it with 75 characters then get matched off those 75 characters, if you want your full roster that's fine too your matchup will reflect it. And for Pete's sake dont factor in ship gp if ships aren't being used. Another alternative would be a character cap, set it at 90 or 100. That way if you have bloat, you dont have to bring it.

"Salatious_Scrum;c-1760459" wrote:
If you chose you use your resources to upgrade every character you have, it’s only your fault your GP is inflated. Even if you didn’t know about GA in the future, spreading your resources so thinly is something that’s ill advised. For TB for filling platoons, you can have Level 1 7 star characters to fill them if you need to, so I don’t see that as an excuse. For TW Extra fluff doesn’t really help. For GA they’re in a hindrance.

Personally I limit myself to a few characters for gear grinding at a time. So I have a lot of characters sitting at 7 stars waiting until I can gear the whole team together. That’s how you grind a team with synergy and not shoot yourself in the foot with leveled up toons you cannot feasibly use.

So then what else do I do with 300 purple ability materials, 66mil credits and 20mil ship credits? Should I just let them sit there unused when I can level characters and ships to help get that final star in TB? Some people literally have an excessive amount of resources on very usable stuff and just sit there with it for no reason but to hoard. You don't need to save 300 purple ability mats for when Revan comes back. Yet here I am with 300 just sitting around because upgrading abilities hurts my GA chances.

If I was spreading myself so "thinly" then why do have so much stuff with nothing else to do with them?

I already have every ship/ character leveled. And I still have an excessive amount of credits. I could easily fully upgrade the abilities of 3-4 characters and still have enough for a new one and zetas. It's not like I'm using omegas on them.