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"DarkHelmet1138;c-1957982" wrote:
Those that want their defense to be a secret to their opponents or future opponents are in for a rude awakening.
CG has already said they are looking into putting battle history data up in gac in the future and until then possibly on swgoh.gg.
This is to better identify cheaters. Right now, it is hard to tell if someone full clears you legitimately with a 60 banner per fight average or if they cheated. A battle log will help with that.
Once that's added, it is only a matter of time before that data gets aggregated and is available to look at. Those that set the same defense every time will have to deal with it.
It really is no different than when viewing you opponent's roster was added. It's just the direction the game is heading.
Personally, I want to be able to see what teams beat mine. I have had a few matches where my team was blown away. More details would make it easier to determine if I were cheated, or if not, what I need to do better with my defense.
So in my opinion, having this information, is beneficial and the benefits outweigh the downside. Now I do think they will make sure the round is over before putting the data up as well they should.
My current opponent has the right to know what teams I used and what I scored.
After my matches I send a message to them - saying good match, best of luck and if they want to know any of the teams I used just ask.
I'm getting close to where I can actually bluestacks and put them up on the internet for my opponent.
Yeah, you're right, there will eventually be enough data to start to form profiles.
However, when you look at some of the people on the internet video channels. They still have great success when everyone can see their moves, their rosters mods and history.
You still have to play the game. So, not that huge of a deal.- If CG intended for people to know what is in the back territories right at the start, they wouldn't hide it in the first place.
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1957986" wrote:
"Dmitry_M81;c-1957983" wrote:
"Vertigo;c-1957942" wrote:
The idea behind it is to allow you to save your own previous GAC battles so you know what worked well and what didn't in the future if you come up against someone with similar rosters and modding. The creator said he's thinking about, but doesn't think CG would like that and might shut him down if he allowed people to access that information. (Which is probably true). So for now, it seems like it's just something you could do yourself if you wanted to keep track of your previous GAC matches, but the bot will do it for you so you can see it easier.
Yeah, but creator does have access to information, right? I can't believe it won't be sold
The best way to handle it from a dev standpoint is to make previous battle history viewable in game just like you can view the rosters. That evens the playing field.
Or NOT ) And restrict that bot from collecting data. Or allow it to collect data from only registered users. Cuz I certainly vote against third party collecting my GAC data, actually it's law case in EU"Dmitry_M81;c-1957990" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1957986" wrote:
"Dmitry_M81;c-1957983" wrote:
"Vertigo;c-1957942" wrote:
The idea behind it is to allow you to save your own previous GAC battles so you know what worked well and what didn't in the future if you come up against someone with similar rosters and modding. The creator said he's thinking about, but doesn't think CG would like that and might shut him down if he allowed people to access that information. (Which is probably true). So for now, it seems like it's just something you could do yourself if you wanted to keep track of your previous GAC matches, but the bot will do it for you so you can see it easier.
Yeah, but creator does have access to information, right? I can't believe it won't be sold
The best way to handle it from a dev standpoint is to make previous battle history viewable in game just like you can view the rosters. That evens the playing field.
Or NOT ) And restrict that bot from collecting data
I take it you don't vary your defense much. But no matter what, if you can see the attacks of your opponent, there are several ways to get the information out. The chat feature has already been mentioned as one of them.
People will screen shot it and share it. I believe it to be better that everyone has the same information rather than just those that find a work around."TVF;c-1957992" wrote:
If CG intended for people to know what is in the back territories right at the start, they wouldn't hide it in the first place.
None of the data from the previous round, tells your current opponent what you put in the back. Just what you have put in the back in the past. It may or may not be the same."taquillasun;c-1957989" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1957982" wrote:
Those that want their defense to be a secret to their opponents or future opponents are in for a rude awakening.
CG has already said they are looking into putting battle history data up in gac in the future and until then possibly on swgoh.gg.
This is to better identify cheaters. Right now, it is hard to tell if someone full clears you legitimately with a 60 banner per fight average or if they cheated. A battle log will help with that.
Once that's added, it is only a matter of time before that data gets aggregated and is available to look at. Those that set the same defense every time will have to deal with it.
It really is no different than when viewing you opponent's roster was added. It's just the direction the game is heading.
Personally, I want to be able to see what teams beat mine. I have had a few matches where my team was blown away. More details would make it easier to determine if I were cheated, or if not, what I need to do better with my defense.
So in my opinion, having this information, is beneficial and the benefits outweigh the downside. Now I do think they will make sure the round is over before putting the data up as well they should.
My current opponent has the right to know what teams I used and what I scored.
After my matches I send a message to them - saying good match, best of luck and if they want to know any of the teams I used just ask.
I'm getting close to where I can actually bluestacks and put them up on the internet for my opponent.
Yeah, you're right, there will eventually be enough data to start to form profiles.
However, when you look at some of the people on the internet video channels. They still have great success when everyone can see their moves, their rosters mods and history.
You still have to play the game. So, not that huge of a deal.
That's your own bussiness. I still waiting the creator to answer if his tool collecting MY data, and if it does I'm against it. And we all need to raise voices not to let it happen and restrict that bot from the game"DarkHelmet1138;c-1957999" wrote:
"TVF;c-1957992" wrote:
If CG intended for people to know what is in the back territories right at the start, they wouldn't hide it in the first place.
None of the data from the previous round, tells your current opponent what you put in the back. Just what you have put in the back in the past. It may or may not be the same.
That's true.
Doesn't make the discord any less sad.- @Hotsauce So... does bot collecting any personal data on opponents or not?
"Dmitry_M81;c-1958000" wrote:
"taquillasun;c-1957989" wrote:
"DarkHelmet1138;c-1957982" wrote:
Those that want their defense to be a secret to their opponents or future opponents are in for a rude awakening.
CG has already said they are looking into putting battle history data up in gac in the future and until then possibly on swgoh.gg.
This is to better identify cheaters. Right now, it is hard to tell if someone full clears you legitimately with a 60 banner per fight average or if they cheated. A battle log will help with that.
Once that's added, it is only a matter of time before that data gets aggregated and is available to look at. Those that set the same defense every time will have to deal with it.
It really is no different than when viewing you opponent's roster was added. It's just the direction the game is heading.
Personally, I want to be able to see what teams beat mine. I have had a few matches where my team was blown away. More details would make it easier to determine if I were cheated, or if not, what I need to do better with my defense.
So in my opinion, having this information, is beneficial and the benefits outweigh the downside. Now I do think they will make sure the round is over before putting the data up as well they should.
My current opponent has the right to know what teams I used and what I scored.
After my matches I send a message to them - saying good match, best of luck and if they want to know any of the teams I used just ask.
I'm getting close to where I can actually bluestacks and put them up on the internet for my opponent.
Yeah, you're right, there will eventually be enough data to start to form profiles.
However, when you look at some of the people on the internet video channels. They still have great success when everyone can see their moves, their rosters mods and history.
You still have to play the game. So, not that huge of a deal.
That's your own bussiness. I still waiting the creator to answer if his tool collecting MY data, and if it does I'm against it. And we all need to raise voices not to let it happen and restrict that bot from the game
I don't think that data is currently being shared. But the devs have said they plan on chaging that to fight cheating. That's why it should be made available to everyone. That stops a 3rd party frim collecting it and only sharing with a few.
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