GL ticket changes [MERGE]

"Sewpot;c-2176040" wrote:




Don’t Like how things are working out so far. Already bugging apparently

The change isn't live yet. Yesterday 10/06/2020 it was stated:
Tomorrow’s Update will change how Galactic Legend Event Tickets are earned.
It is only ~0800 at the CG office now, Updates typically have a client restart involved along with in game message spam

Let me say that, yes, I think the concept is good and that it will be nice to be able to farm anything but UNLESS they keep the drop eng equivalent drop rate at what it is for a 6 eng node (which they won't) this is going to hurt. There's a lot of people out there stating the ticket farming is about 33% currently. The top post on Reddit says 20-25%.
Please share your current farming in this post, if you have hard data. Then we'll see what the drop rate is after the change and have people post more.

I wish I kept my raw numbers, because my best guess is a ticket drop rate of around 2-3%. I’ve been farming all hard nodes and 10 energy kyro nodes, because I don’t want to sacrifice those farms. I knew I was losing attempts by using higher energy nodes, but I did NOT know until reading their post that my drop rate was abysmal because they differed depending on the energy. Spending nothing but LS energy all day has been netting me roughly ONE ticket for the entire day. More shady garbage from CG.

"ObiPhilKenobi;c-2176135" wrote:
I wish I kept my raw numbers, because my best guess is a ticket drop rate of around 2-3%. I’ve been farming all hard nodes and 10 energy kyro nodes, because I don’t want to sacrifice those farms. I knew I was losing attempts by using higher energy nodes, but I did NOT know until reading their post that my drop rate was abysmal because they differed depending on the energy. Spending nothing but LS energy all day has been netting me roughly ONE ticket for the entire day. More shady garbage from CG.

They don't depend on the amount of energy spent... yet.

"ObiPhilKenobi;c-2176135" wrote:
I wish I kept my raw numbers, because my best guess is a ticket drop rate of around 2-3%. I’ve been farming all hard nodes and 10 energy kyro nodes, because I don’t want to sacrifice those farms. I knew I was losing attempts by using higher energy nodes, but I did NOT know until reading their post that my drop rate was abysmal because they differed depending on the energy. Spending nothing but LS energy all day has been netting me roughly ONE ticket for the entire day. More shady garbage from CG.

The drop rate was flat per attempt. So the drop rate of running a 6 energy node or a 10 energy node was the same.

You got more attempts because a 6 node was cheaper.

"AM2Rainman;c-2176137" wrote:
Let me say that, yes, I think the concept is good and that it will be nice to be able to farm anything but UNLESS they keep the drop eng equivalent drop rate at what it is for a 6 eng node (which they won't) this is going to hurt. There's a lot of people out there stating the ticket farming is about 33% currently. The top post on Reddit says 20-25%.
Please share your current farming in this post, if you have hard data. Then we'll see what the drop rate is after the change and have people post more.

33% seems like it will be the going rate, that was the rate with the flat drop on 6 energy nodes.....

I know we can all say what we want, but saying they will not keep it there is a bit short sighted. They already allowed us to farm at that rate, and if they were not happy with that they would have changed it earlier.

"Nikoms565;c-2175942" wrote:


Secondly, the drop rate of the tickets will likely be based on the 6 energy nodes and will scale by amount of energy (so 12 energy nodes will have a drop rate twice as high as the 6) - allowing players to, in effect, farm tickets from whichever nodes they want (i.e. continue farming whatever gear /characters they wanted at whatever energy level).

THis is speculation. Also, if they keep the same rate but base it on energy, then you have a 110% chance on a 20 eng node? Does this sound like CG? No. While I don't think it'll be a 1/3 drop rate on a 20 eng node. I have absolutely no belief it'll stay the same for a 6 eng node.

"AM2Rainman;c-2176146" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2175942" wrote:


Secondly, the drop rate of the tickets will likely be based on the 6 energy nodes and will scale by amount of energy (so 12 energy nodes will have a drop rate twice as high as the 6) - allowing players to, in effect, farm tickets from whichever nodes they want (i.e. continue farming whatever gear /characters they wanted at whatever energy level).

THis is speculation. Also, if they keep the same rate but base it on energy, then you have a 110% chance on a 20 eng node? Does this sound like CG? No. While I don't think it'll be a 1/3 drop rate on a 20 eng node. I have absolutely no belief it'll stay the same for a 6 eng node.

I don't think it would work that way; 0.33 on 6 energy would mean that increasing to 20 energy, which is 3.33 times 6, would be 1-(0.67^3.33), or a 73.6% drop rate. That still seems high. If the rate for 6 energy is 0.33/6, by the same logic a 20 energy node would then have a 68% drop rate. Which does in fact seem high; however, considering you don't sim as many nodes, the total number of tickets comes down. If it's indeed similar to galactic chase, it should work out to the same average number of tickets per day no matter which node you sim. We just don't know the exact numbers. I think galactic chase has close to an 80% drop on 20 energy.

"crzydroid;c-2176157" wrote:

"AM2Rainman;c-2176146" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2175942" wrote:


Secondly, the drop rate of the tickets will likely be based on the 6 energy nodes and will scale by amount of energy (so 12 energy nodes will have a drop rate twice as high as the 6) - allowing players to, in effect, farm tickets from whichever nodes they want (i.e. continue farming whatever gear /characters they wanted at whatever energy level).

THis is speculation. Also, if they keep the same rate but base it on energy, then you have a 110% chance on a 20 eng node? Does this sound like CG? No. While I don't think it'll be a 1/3 drop rate on a 20 eng node. I have absolutely no belief it'll stay the same for a 6 eng node.

I don't think it would work that way; 0.33 on 6 energy would mean that increasing to 20 energy, which is 3.33 times 6, would be 1-(0.67^3.33), or a 73.6% drop rate. That still seems high. If the rate for 6 energy is 0.33/6, by the same logic a 20 energy node would then have a 68% drop rate. Which does in fact seem high; however, considering you don't sim as many nodes, the total number of tickets comes down. If it's indeed similar to galactic chase, it should work out to the same average number of tickets per day no matter which node you sim. We just don't know the exact numbers. I think galactic chase has close to an 80% drop on 20 energy.

While your math is right, I believe how your methodology is wrong. Look back at galactic chase. I agree that the drop rate on a 20 eng node is 80%. They mentioned that the percentage is 2% per eng. 2% times 20 is 80%. Or X=. We can rearrange this equation to be /=. 33%/6=5.56%. Now take 5.56%X20 and you get 111%. (different from my original 110%)
But let's look at your methodology and round yours to 75% per sim for the sake of ease. Let's take 240 eng, because that makes the math easy. You'll do 12 sims. Each sim a 75% chance of success so you'll get, on average, 9 GL tickets. Now take the 6 eng node. That's 40 sims at a 33% chance of success. So on average you get 13 GL tickets. So even if your math methodology is right, this is still a bad thing.

"AM2Rainman;c-2176168" wrote:

"crzydroid;c-2176157" wrote:

"AM2Rainman;c-2176146" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-2175942" wrote:


Secondly, the drop rate of the tickets will likely be based on the 6 energy nodes and will scale by amount of energy (so 12 energy nodes will have a drop rate twice as high as the 6) - allowing players to, in effect, farm tickets from whichever nodes they want (i.e. continue farming whatever gear /characters they wanted at whatever energy level).

THis is speculation. Also, if they keep the same rate but base it on energy, then you have a 110% chance on a 20 eng node? Does this sound like CG? No. While I don't think it'll be a 1/3 drop rate on a 20 eng node. I have absolutely no belief it'll stay the same for a 6 eng node.

I don't think it would work that way; 0.33 on 6 energy would mean that increasing to 20 energy, which is 3.33 times 6, would be 1-(0.67^3.33), or a 73.6% drop rate. That still seems high. If the rate for 6 energy is 0.33/6, by the same logic a 20 energy node would then have a 68% drop rate. Which does in fact seem high; however, considering you don't sim as many nodes, the total number of tickets comes down. If it's indeed similar to galactic chase, it should work out to the same average number of tickets per day no matter which node you sim. We just don't know the exact numbers. I think galactic chase has close to an 80% drop on 20 energy.

While your math is right, I believe how your methodology is wrong. Look back at galactic chase. I agree that the drop rate on a 20 eng node is 80%. They mentioned that the percentage is 2% per eng. 2% times 20 is 80%. Or X=. We can rearrange this equation to be /=. 33%/6=5.56%. Now take 5.56%X20 and you get 111%. (different from my original 110%)
But let's look at your methodology and round yours to 75% per sim for the sake of ease. Let's take 240 eng, because that makes the math easy. You'll do 12 sims. Each sim a 75% chance of success so you'll get, on average, 9 GL tickets. Now take the 6 eng node. That's 40 sims at a 33% chance of success. So on average you get 13 GL tickets. So even if your math methodology is right, this is still a bad thing.

I was actually just about to come on and edit my reply. I think you're right in that it's linear. But I agree that 1/3 on 6 is too high, because 20 would be over 1. So likely they will pick some new rate. If they go with 80% on 20, then that would be 24% for 6. If you spent 240 energy, you would get an expected value of 9.6 tickets, whether you did 6 or 20.