GL value -not there

If you are talking about GAC:

The value of a GL for offensive use is unquestionable. They can solo so many teams and give you great banners.

And not all GL are god-tier on defense. Especially if you set them with the wrong team mates. There are definitely non-GL counters to certain GL def teams. If you put JMK on defense without CAT then you should not be surprised if it gets taken out easily.

I suggest to use swgoh.gg counter database to find the best GL team combs.

Don’t put SEE on defense that’s my advice. Lord Vader is also nearly worthless on both offense and defense.

Just disagree, and yes, I use guides on a regular-basis. No GL R8 squad should ever lose to GL 12 squad of any composition, cost-wise that isn't logical and invalidates the supposed hierarchy/ progression.

Don't have a lot of time to devote this one, really posting a concern directly here as CS doesn't typically reply. For younger folks, without the experience of working a long career with finances, or related fields it's understandable some will justify money spent based only on their own experience, giving a limited view perhaps. More experienced will tend to take a closer look, when you get concerned is when you don't get a response at all, or if you do, the math doesn't make sense. Long-winded way of saying GL's are more expensive than they should be, CG needs to take a closer look at this, of they don't that is a strategic mistake.

"boomerd;c-2326100" wrote:
Just disagree, and yes, I use guides on a regular-basis. No GL R8 squad should ever lose to GL 12 squad of any composition, cost-wise that isn't logical and invalidates the supposed hierarchy/ progression.

Like I said, GLs are meant to give you a competitive edge, but they are not supposed to make you invincible in GAC.

And for sure they are not "cheap" in terms of time (and maybe real money if you are inpatient) invested. But going for a GL also requires you to level up many other characters as prerequisites, which are mostly helpful and not just simply useless.

And finally, there are the newer characters like Mara and KK, who slotted in the right teams, can take out GLs even with low stars and gears. But that's the way the game progresses. New metas come and go. And rest assured this is not CG with bad business strategy but actually part of their strategy to generate incentive for people chasing those new marquees (and with even more willingness to spend money than for a GL maybe).

I'm sick of these people who think they can just farm something like a gl or exec and then just auto win everything. You have to put in the effort to understand and properly use a kit

Definitely need more info in regards to which game mode you are seeing your GL lose to lower geared teams. Also which GLs are you referencing? Some are just bad on defense and can be beat with some non GL teams though there are few left.

You mention GG for instance beating a GL. If the GL and team have low tenacity than the TM gains GG squads get by hitting target locked toons can cause them to run away on taking turns and decimate you.

Also as mentioned the build up of other toons to get a GL gives you solid squads in the process so I can't say the investment is wasted.

If you spent money to speed up the process that's on you since there is plenty of information out there regarding the usefulness and effectiveness of each GL both on the forums/reddit as well as YouTube.

Seems like you don't know the strengths and weaknesses of the GLs you have or how to use them properly. But without more information regarding which GLs specifically you are talking about we can't provide you with a proper response.

Also don't doubt the advantage a GL can give a new player who can beeline for one and achieve it in 6 months without spending any real money

"boomerd;d-252608" wrote:
I've recently spoke with others who also feel the value of a GL is not proportional to what is costs. Every week I have a GL that loses to an ordinary, free lead like Grievous, or CLS. In some cases, these are GL 12 squads vs my R8 (which also) calls in to question the value of relics, relative to cost.

If you are losing R8 GLs to G12 CLS that sounds more like a modding or team strat issue. Care to share a swgoh.gg account?

"boomerd;c-2326100" wrote:
Just disagree, and yes, I use guides on a regular-basis. No GL R8 squad should ever lose to GL 12 squad of any composition, cost-wise that isn't logical and invalidates the supposed hierarchy/ progression.

Which g12 non-gl squad is able to beat a R8 GL (I guess with ultimate ?) ? Genuinely interested.