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"abc127;c-1898839" wrote:
"No_Try;c-1898801" wrote:
Going broad doesn't mean that at all. For old players they can easily be both broad and have the same focused top end that you do without doing anything else different than yours including their best team priorities. When you get past 4M gp, almost all the competetive players fit the definition of broad, yet their rosters are super focused as well while carrying lots of gp making stuff with it.
When a roster is broad and also lacks focus, randomly worked toons lacking synergies, half built teams etc...you should search for the reason on that player, not on the fact that the roster is broad.
Fair enough. I was speaking to my specific and surrounding GP. But it definitely means something different at various ages of account.
I wouldn't want to face a 4M player with my same top end, though. The rest of the roster seems like something I would have no way to combat.
I agree and you shouldn't be facing them either if...CG backs out of this 2nd try and proceeds with their announced new MM."evoluza;c-1898859" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-1898745" wrote:
"evoluza;c-1898734" wrote:
That just shows that almost nobody wants a real challenge in GA.
This is a sad day for competitive gameplay.
I disagree. I do think people want a challenge - I just think they also want a fair fight. There are situations where 2 guys with both Revans are in the same bracket with 2 guys who have neither. That's not a "challenge" for either side (unless they only faced each other, which to win, isn't possible).
A matchup algorithim that can't seem to account for the two most meta dominant characters in the game's history seems to need "retweaking".
Or you call it what it is,an advantage.
A deserved one, if you farmed/speng accordingly.
People without revan don't win or win with an good counter and other good teams.
Except CG has stated in several places that the intent of the GAC matchmaking rework was, at least in theory, that "players will still be rewarded for their strategy in Grand Arena, but they’ll be matched up against someone who looks more like them. The change won’t be drastic – in most cases, players should still have GP that is pretty close to that of their opponent."
In other words, that advantage is supposed to help in arena, TW, TB and raids - but GAC is supposed to have matchups of rosters that are more evenly matched. Either CG's statements about the matchmaking rework for GAC is off base, or the matchup algorithm seems to be. And since CG has remained silent on the point for the past 24 hours, we don't know which is the case."Nikoms565;c-1899037" wrote:
"evoluza;c-1898859" wrote:
"Nikoms565;c-1898745" wrote:
"evoluza;c-1898734" wrote:
That just shows that almost nobody wants a real challenge in GA.
This is a sad day for competitive gameplay.
I disagree. I do think people want a challenge - I just think they also want a fair fight. There are situations where 2 guys with both Revans are in the same bracket with 2 guys who have neither. That's not a "challenge" for either side (unless they only faced each other, which to win, isn't possible).
A matchup algorithim that can't seem to account for the two most meta dominant characters in the game's history seems to need "retweaking".
Or you call it what it is,an advantage.
A deserved one, if you farmed/speng accordingly.
People without revan don't win or win with an good counter and other good teams.
Except CG has stated in several places that the intent of the GAC matchmaking rework was, at least in theory, that "players will still be rewarded for their strategy in Grand Arena, but they’ll be matched up against someone who looks more like them. The change won’t be drastic – in most cases, players should still have GP that is pretty close to that of their opponent."
In other words, that advantage is supposed to help in arena, TW, TB and raids - but GAC is supposed to have matchups of rosters that are more evenly matched. Either CG's statements about the matchmaking rework for GAC is off base, or the matchup algorithm seems to be. And since CG has remained silent on the point for the past 24 hours, we don't know which is the case.
We do know, they don't need to come out and say anything right now as there are no emergencies/malfunctions in the game. It's explained right in the game how it works right now. And that explanation simply can not give you the result that you expect from the new matchmaking announcement. There's no magic that will simply give you even match-ups.- These matchups are kinda ridiculous. Huge discrepancies in GP which leads to huge discrepancies in Zetas/G12s/6 E Mods... as accounts of much different 'ages' are paired up against each other. One of my guildies is getting pretty screwed with a big gap
"Mikayas;c-1899346" wrote:
You can’t have different divisions playing each other when those divisions require a different number of squads set. The more squads, the more “possible points”, and so the greater advantage to climb to Kyber. This doesn’t take even average intelligence to see.
Your logic went completely over the head of 80% of players here. I mean I get it, but I'm not so sure about others.- Im just curious how 6 people in my division set one extra team earning them 90 extra points
"3pourr2;c-1899363" wrote:
Im just curious how 6 people in my division set one extra team earning them 90 extra points
They got matched vs someone in a higher division therefore getting more opportunities to score points.
There's nothing you can do to outscore them in your division. your essentially battle limited.
Rng (matchmaking) determines who even has the opportunity to compete for the top of each division.
If your one of the lucky ones who fights up a division you have a shot at winning the division because you can place more teams than anyone else in your division.... Of course u need 3 rounds if fighting up a division so rng X3.
The other 99% of players in every division have lost any shot at winning the division as soon as they were matched against someone in their own division or one division lower and not up one level.
Pray for rng to match you up a level, then you need that rng luck 3x in a row, then win all your combat 3x and you can be a division champ.
Cg now controls who has a shot at winning the division. we should maybe trust them that It's Wai.
they do thousands of hours of testing and can run an algorithm to tell them if your roster is strong enough to have a shot at winning. If you fail the matchmaking algorithm rng, you lose. But they have the data they know best."BobcatSkywalker;c-1899395" wrote:
"3pourr2;c-1899363" wrote:
Im just curious how 6 people in my division set one extra team earning them 90 extra points
They got matched vs someone in a higher division therefore getting more opportunities to score points.
There's nothing you can do to outscore them in your division. your essentially battle limited.
Rng (matchmaking) determines who even has the opportunity to compete for the top of each division.
If your one of the lucky ones who fights up a division you have a shot at winning the division because you can place more teams than anyone else in your division.... Of course u need 3 rounds if fighting up a division so rng X3.
The other 99% of players in every division have lost any shot at winning the division as soon as they were matched against someone in their own division or one division lower and not up one level.
Pray for rng to match you up a level, then you need that rng luck 3x in a row, then win all your combat 3x and you can be a division champ.
Cg now controls who has a shot at winning the division. we should maybe trust them that It's Wai.
they do thousands of hours of testing and can run an algorithm to tell them if your roster is strong enough to have a shot at winning. If you fail the matchmaking algorithm rng, you lose. But they have the data they know best.
I agree with everything except that thousands of hours of testing- I'm so disappointed this is actually happening lol. All the work i've put into my collection you simply shat on it by unfair matchmaking. I really thought this event is going to be something beautiful. All it produced was anger and hate in me. I truly hope a dev sees this and understands what he has done to many of us, because I know i'm not the only one.
"HerderOfNerf;c-1899530" wrote:
Is it against to ToS to wish herpes on the entire CG staff? Assuming they don't already have herpes.
You can wish on a star, you are not entitled to anything from cg or the universe though.
