Forum Discussion
- Neither broad or lean has direct implication on good choices a player makes and how competetive or good players they are. I think it's a good time to let go of this rhetoric as if these 2 stereotypes apply universally.
- These matchups are kinda ridiculous. Huge discrepancies in GP which leads to huge discrepancies in Zetas/G12s/6 E Mods... as accounts of much different 'ages' are paired up against each other. One of my guildies is getting pretty screwed with a big gap
"Mikayas;c-1899346" wrote:
You can’t have different divisions playing each other when those divisions require a different number of squads set. The more squads, the more “possible points”, and so the greater advantage to climb to Kyber. This doesn’t take even average intelligence to see.
Your logic went completely over the head of 80% of players here. I mean I get it, but I'm not so sure about others."3pourr2;c-1899363" wrote:
Im just curious how 6 people in my division set one extra team earning them 90 extra points
They got matched vs someone in a higher division therefore getting more opportunities to score points.
There's nothing you can do to outscore them in your division. your essentially battle limited.
Rng (matchmaking) determines who even has the opportunity to compete for the top of each division.
If your one of the lucky ones who fights up a division you have a shot at winning the division because you can place more teams than anyone else in your division.... Of course u need 3 rounds if fighting up a division so rng X3.
The other 99% of players in every division have lost any shot at winning the division as soon as they were matched against someone in their own division or one division lower and not up one level.
Pray for rng to match you up a level, then you need that rng luck 3x in a row, then win all your combat 3x and you can be a division champ.
Cg now controls who has a shot at winning the division. we should maybe trust them that It's Wai.
they do thousands of hours of testing and can run an algorithm to tell them if your roster is strong enough to have a shot at winning. If you fail the matchmaking algorithm rng, you lose. But they have the data they know best."BobcatSkywalker;c-1899395" wrote:
"3pourr2;c-1899363" wrote:
Im just curious how 6 people in my division set one extra team earning them 90 extra points
They got matched vs someone in a higher division therefore getting more opportunities to score points.
There's nothing you can do to outscore them in your division. your essentially battle limited.
Rng (matchmaking) determines who even has the opportunity to compete for the top of each division.
If your one of the lucky ones who fights up a division you have a shot at winning the division because you can place more teams than anyone else in your division.... Of course u need 3 rounds if fighting up a division so rng X3.
The other 99% of players in every division have lost any shot at winning the division as soon as they were matched against someone in their own division or one division lower and not up one level.
Pray for rng to match you up a level, then you need that rng luck 3x in a row, then win all your combat 3x and you can be a division champ.
Cg now controls who has a shot at winning the division. we should maybe trust them that It's Wai.
they do thousands of hours of testing and can run an algorithm to tell them if your roster is strong enough to have a shot at winning. If you fail the matchmaking algorithm rng, you lose. But they have the data they know best.
I agree with everything except that thousands of hours of testing- I'm so disappointed this is actually happening lol. All the work i've put into my collection you simply shat on it by unfair matchmaking. I really thought this event is going to be something beautiful. All it produced was anger and hate in me. I truly hope a dev sees this and understands what he has done to many of us, because I know i'm not the only one.
- Tjis match up its really silly . Players from my top division where smashed by me in last GA s and i have no chance to reach them . They will go in next league with 40 g12 chars while i was forced to fight against players with twice my g12 (140÷150 g12 chars) . Tx a lot EA
- As this seems to be the right place - right now in div 3 it is impossible for me to be top in the division. The leader has 2076 points, and my maximum theoretical is 2001 (540 def + 660 conquer + 456 (6x 1-man team wins) + 345 max feats).
So someone in my division is allowed to place and fight more teams than me.
I'm fine with the matchmaking. Not fine with an uneven playing field. "UncleOnceler;c-1900046" wrote:
"333freeman;c-1898342" wrote:
"Saada;c-1898278" wrote:
All my opponents have far greater character gp and overall gp and from div 4 while I'm in div5 but guess what they're all gunna get smashed cause I built strong squads while they're all over the place so get over it guys. You could get matched with me since we would have the same character gp and get smashed anyway.
I would be happy to be placed against you and it would be a good battle. At least I would be fighting in my division so we could figure out who is the best in our division. Isn't the point is to move up thru the ranks within your division to become the best. Why should we be punished for farming the right squads.
And why should I be punished for having played the game longer, so I have all your squads and teams like the jawa meta, so my GP far exceeds yours.
you shouldn't. you should be matched with players like you. current matchmaking only looks at the top X characters and seems to have added 2 defensive placements, at least at my GP. what that fails to take into account is that some of my G12s might be fleet or raid specific (e.g., my G12 FOTP to go along with a bunch of G8 FO). While you might have useful toons that don't show up in the algorithm (your G12 KRU and FOTP which do and G11 Fox FOST Kylo which don't). You have a squad to place or use. I don't, but the algorithm doesn't see that.
Matchmaking has seemingly gone from one extreme - very dumb looking at only GP - to the other - looking at the minimum number of toons required to field the defensive placement requirement. You could argue that it's picking winners and losers either way. I thought that the concept of Leagues within a division was intended to be the sorting hat, and under the old algorithm this was true. As you progressed through leagues you would face tougher competition.
I'm taking part in 4 GAs (I know, right?) and I've won the first round in 3 of the 4. The only one in which I had no shot? The best roster among the group, because it was matched up against an account that was 40% older (read better mods), had 350k more toon GP, was asked to place 8 teams instead of 6 (and here I've been building my roster focusing on 12 solid squads, not 16), and highly effective low gear toons under the right leads don't show up in matchmaking (I mean you GR and especially Sep Droids).
Now, the less effective, lower ranked, worse modded account at a slightly higher GP in the same division is going to be 20,000 ranks ahead because of the matchmaking changes in conjunction with unannounced placement count changes.
It doesn't make a lot of sense. I thought as we progressed through the championship, we would enter new leagues which would put us in competition with "rosters that looked more like ours". This matchmaking does no such thing. It matches me against rosters that look partially like mine at the top, and a boat load better the further down you go. It does do a really good job of preventing me from getting to a higher league. Essentially, leagues are just a lifetime achievement award, much like character levels. Play long enough and you'll earn enough "points" to get there.
I understand CG is trying to rectify a strategic error (and that is, creating a game mode which incentivized you NOT to take part in the activity that most directly reflects on revenue - adding GP to your roster), and maybe this ultimately does that. What it appears to do more than anything is reward mediocrity."Benchmark;c-1902597" wrote:
Why did I lose my GAC on a tie at 1549. My gp was higher his was lower because he took off all of his mods. He had 35 g12 toons and I only had 28.
A lower gp should win in a tie. (My personal opinion.)
