Grand Arena matchmaking.

"jayjonbeach;c-1787717" wrote:

"Waqui;c-1787713" wrote:

"jayjonbeach;c-1787711" wrote:

"Waqui;c-1787710" wrote:

"jayjonbeach;c-1787705" wrote:

"Waqui;c-1787663" wrote:
Your suggestions would make match-making more unfair, @jayjonbeach. The matches would be more even, yes, but less fair. Your suggestions wouldn't 'fix' the algorithm - they would break it. Even and fair are two different things.

Why not explain how you think it is going to be unfair, in even match-ups as I proposed, especially compared to the SAD state of how match-ups are determined now, with a single parameter resulting in VERY lop-sided match ups @Waqui

Even match-ups will give players, who developed a weaker roster, an easier path to winning high rank rewards in GA and give players, who developed a strong roster (same GP as the weaker ones), a harder path to winning the same high rank rewards. I don't see this as fair. A believe, that mixing stronger and weaker rosters (even GP) in the groups of 8 is far more fair.

Furthermore, I don't believe, the match-making algorithm only considers one parameter currently. It's just your assumption, that it does.

We agree to disagree then, the current algo is trash, I fully agree with the OP

Agreed. We disagree.

On a side note:
If weakly developed rosters can win 1st rank rewards, what would the incentive be for them to develop a stronger roster?

I really think you are confused on the issue. The OP and myself are talking about even matches, which is a point you seem to understand.

Yes. And furthermore, the OP talks about matching players with even GP is great. As I understand it, both of you want more parameters than GP to be considered during match-making (which I believe is already the case) and you want match-ups to be even, considering the strength of the rosters and not just GP.

"jayjonbeach;c-1787717" wrote:

Then you seem to assume that in an even match-up, someone is going to be much weaker, this is where you go off the rails.

Please explain what makes you believe this? In which comment did I state this? Please throw me a quote or two. I believe your assumption here, is off the rails - but please explain

This is what I really assume:
Even match-ups are even. By (my) definition, nobodie's roster would be (significantly) stronger or weaker than their opponent's in an even match-up, when considering all relevant parameters (unlocked characters, ranks, levels, gear levels, ability levels, mods etc.).

"jayjonbeach;c-1787717" wrote:

The whole point being made here is this is what is happening now, people who built deep rosters instead of very narrow but strong ones are at a huge disadvantage in this event. If the match-ups were done either by how the OP described, or how I described, this would no longer happen. Now you would have more even teams in the grouping, as in, there ARE NO WEAK teams, see. All 8 are fairly even, and have a FAIRLY EVEN chance of winning, so will then have to work for the win.

If you still don't see this, I really can't help further.

I've understood this all the time. What are you on about?

My point is:

When considering 16 players with even GP, if the 8 eight players with weaker rosters are grouped together, while the 8 players with stronger rosters are grouped together, the players with weaker rosters would have a higher chance of winning, than if they were mixed with the players with stronger rosters. The player, who loses in the group of players with stronger rosters, has a stronger roster than the player who wins the group of players with weaker rosters. I believe this is unfair. The match-up would be (more) even, yes, but less fair. I believe that the players with stronger rosters should benefit and have a higher chance of winning better rewards.

You seem to not have understood this. If you don't understand by now, I really can't help you further.