Han not shooting first

Worked fine for me.

His speed is irrelevant. Why would his speed matter? He takes a bonus turn at the start of each encounter. Each phase is a new encounter. While the opposition may start with full TM, the bonus turn is supposed to take priority.

Don’t worry everyone! There was an entire thread about how, despite Crumb saying Han should shoot first “as he should,” Han no longer shooting first is definitely WAI from here on out.

George Lucas approves: Han shoots second!

"dogwelder79;c-2162501" wrote:
Well, he only shot first against greedo, not in every fight.

He also shot first against Vader

And Beckett.

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Check the test in read, speed shouldn't matter, they have stated Han will always shoot 1st, they just obviously can't fix their own mechanics

As I understand it, the difference is that Wat Tambor is granted 100% turn meter, while Han is granted a bonus turn, although it's also possible that they had some sort of flag before that broke the "bonus turn" tie. They're not using the old system for breaking ties, so if they did have such a flag, it obviously is unrecognized by the new system.

Since bonus turns come before other turns, and since Han is normally the only one with a bonus turn at the beginning of an encounter in most battles and events, there wasn't a problem (bonus turns can be earned by other characters, but aren't granted at the very beginning of the battle).

However, there are PvE battles where bonus turns are granted. In that case, the first tie breaker is now TurnMeter, and if TM is the same, then the second tie breaker is the Speed of each toon, and only if TM and Speed are both equal do they use RNG.

The answer is easy, of course, grant Han +1000% Turn Meter at the end of each encounter and THEN grant everyone their bonus turns at the beginning of the next encounter. Han's bonus turn will come first since the tie between bonus turns will be the toon with the most TM and then his speed will be irrelevant. A situation requiring this kind of tie breaking hardly ever comes into play, but when it does, this will fix it.

Since they said they'll fix it in the future, I assume that this is (approximately) the fix they're going to implement.

"MasterSeedy;c-2162596" wrote:

They both get bonus turns, but Hans is coded to supersede Wats. That was not changed from the old and new system.

That's kinda what I said, they have a flag to give Han's bonus turn priority, but that flag isn't recognized in the new system.

Don't you concede that the coding is not guaranteeing that Han shoots first? Or do you disbelieve all the reports of Han's bonus turn following other characters' bonus turns?

As I said, they might have a flag in there, but the system is still bypassing it and using TM and then Speed to break the ties, not the programming that is supposed guarantee Han's priority.

I just wanted to correct you when you said Wat gets 100% tm and Han gets a bonus turn. that is not true, they both get bonus turns.
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It is working as it was programmed in the new system. some of the old event were built with bonus turns that seem to be on the same level as Hans. Those events are the only time that Han will have to "win" his turn, and that comes down to the new system, where TM overshoot and speed come into play.

"Gifafi;c-2162627" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2162591" wrote:

"MasterSeedy;c-2162576" wrote:
As I understand it, the difference is that Wat Tambor is granted 100% turn meter, while Han is granted a bonus turn, although it's also possible that they had some sort of flag before that broke the "bonus turn" tie. They're not using the old system for breaking ties, so if they did have such a flag, it obviously is unrecognized by the new system.

They both get bonus turns, but Hans is coded to supersede Wats. That was not changed from the old and new system.

kyno can you confirm this is only with these events like GC? or AB's or w/e? I just want to confirm that han will always shoot first (unless opponent has a faster han) in the other areas of the game like gac or tw/arena etc.

Yes in PvP modes he will have his bonus turn first, unless another Han is involved, then it will be up to the rules stated.