How OP is CLS?

"scuba;c-1260921" wrote:
This different than Rex +4 or zeta Maul before R2. Cls is a waste as a lead IMO. I hope peeps keep using him makes for easy battles.

He's strong for sure, but no hero is that OP right now; no team is unbeatable.

I'm glad he's a tough toon, however it's making the game boring. My shard has 19/25 with CLS lead. The rest. 1 Thrawn, 1 Qui Gon, 2 Rex, and 2 Wedge. Seems pretty obvious given the short time CLS has been available. I didn't get him and I dropped 100 spots within a week of his release, from rank 30 to fighting to stay 130. I see a lot of familiar names from the top 50 right with me so I know I'm not alone. basically CLS changed the game. Borrowing him breezed me through the lv 9 hard light side battles that I had a tough time with before. Sure he's fun to use, But it's forcing anyone who wants to compete to run CLS, GK, R2, and Chaze. Basically an unbeatable team right there. Nihilus is gone, Thrawn is disappearing quickly and almost gone. Really not much point in even trying for anything else right now.

Look on the bright side... smuggler chewy can OHKO him.

"Wookie_Hair;c-1260899" wrote:
Its why there are almost no dark side teams in the arena now. When the average light side toon can be faster than a dark side toon under a Maul lead, there isn't much chance for dark side to compete.

No lightside toon can beat a Sith assassin under Maul lead.
Tarkin & Veers are viable leaders and bring a lot of speed.
Dooku, Sidious, Zam and TFP are among the fastest toons around, TFP being the fastest.

Never encountered a FO team either i guess, cause i wouldn't say they're the slowest around.

Seriously.

"3slink;d-131974" wrote:
Imo he needs a nerf. Before him there was diversity to arena which was fun. Now it's just put a bunch of rebels with CLS and you've made top 20.
Also why can he crit for 32k? Are you actually mad?! What the hell is ROTJ Luke supposed to hit for?

Interested to hear thoughts.

I kick myself every day for not getting him, since he indeed is insanely good. Don't expect a nerf, as that would cause an uproar, and I'm sure he was intended to be as good as they made him.

Anyway, the best option for anyone who doesn't have him is to start working on arena teams that are anti-crit, with abilities like stun/daze/stealth and attacks like annihilate and fracture. The two best options are probably:

General Kenobi (L), zBarriss, zR2D2, Nihilus, Thrawn
Rex (L), General Kenobi, zR2D2, Nihilus, Thrawn

"plindboe;c-1261398" wrote:

"3slink;d-131974" wrote:
Imo he needs a nerf. Before him there was diversity to arena which was fun. Now it's just put a bunch of rebels with CLS and you've made top 20.
Also why can he crit for 32k? Are you actually mad?! What the hell is ROTJ Luke supposed to hit for?

Interested to hear thoughts.

I kick myself every day for not getting him, since he indeed is insanely good. Don't expect a nerf, as that would cause an uproar, and I'm sure he was intended to be as good as they made him.

Anyway, the best option for anyone who doesn't have him is to start working on arena teams that are anti-crit, with abilities like stun/daze/stealth and attacks like annihilate and fracture. The two best options are probably:

General Kenobi (L), zBarriss, zR2D2, Nihilus, Thrawn
Rex (L), General Kenobi, zR2D2, Nihilus, Thrawn

CLS can one shot Rex before Kenobi taunts.

"zombiwan_kenobi;c-1261363" wrote:

"Wookie_Hair;c-1260899" wrote:
Its why there are almost no dark side teams in the arena now. When the average light side toon can be faster than a dark side toon under a Maul lead, there isn't much chance for dark side to compete.

No lightside toon can beat a Sith assassin under Maul lead.
Tarkin & Veers are viable leaders and bring a lot of speed.
Dooku, Sidious, Zam and TFP are among the fastest toons around, TFP being the fastest.

Never encountered a FO team either i guess, cause i wouldn't say they're the slowest around.

Seriously.

Are you running those toons in arena yourself? Seriously. They're maybe faster but except Veers, Tarkin (also not as lead) and Thrawn, DS is out of the game. Top 50 is plenty of this CLS teams with the same toons. CLS, GK, R2, Han + 1. Boring ...

Are you guys seriously discussing this, if Chirrut can crit for 50k, Wedge 30k, and they are just about decent characters

What the duck is wrong in making CLS powerful, him being legendary.

He deserves it... Period.

"zombiwan_kenobi;c-1261363" wrote:

No lightside toon can beat a Sith assassin under Maul lead.
Tarkin & Veers are viable leaders and bring a lot of speed.
Dooku, Sidious, Zam and TFP are among the fastest toons around, TFP being the fastest.

Never encountered a FO team either i guess, cause i wouldn't say they're the slowest around.

Seriously.

You are correct, assassin under maul is crazy fast on turn 1, but I stand by my assessment. Outside of the 20% tm boost turn 1 though, speed is at best on par with the likes of r2, Leia, etc.

Tarkin and veers are not viable in the top 100 of my arena as leads, and dooku is only useful under a dn lead. I haven't seen a sidious in forever, and zam has never been a presence.

You can make a ds team as fast as any team, same as a Jedi team under qgj, but it just isn't viable. Rebel counterattacks and 30k crits just can't be matched. Nobody on the dark side hits that hard consistently, and those that do are glass.

It is borry fighting CLS all the day (28/30 in my Leaderboard have him in their squad, Dez. 2015) and that is the reason i will stay by my Dark-Side-Team. DK and zDT under Thrawn lead are the perfect tool to handle this rebel scum. :wink:

As long as i can get Top 5/10 every day i will not use CLS although i have him almost Gear 12.

Like GK, he is not needet to stay at high rank in the arena but he makes it a lot easyer. Its like Light Side Toons are beeing corruptet by the dark side.

Luke: "Is the dark side stronger?" Yoda: "No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive." :lol:

I have him g11 and BAT zeta.

Yes he is strong but once he gets stunned he's there for the taking