How to make a Rock Paper Scissors meta

"BaldingHead90;c-1934771" wrote:

"Nihion;c-1934752" wrote:
I think CG knows that most people don’t want to pay regardless. I wouldn’t pay a dollar, because it’s a free game. Every cent I spend could be used better places, and a ton of people realize that. So CG tries to squeeze every penny out of the people that will pay.

Idk dude, I think alot of people would pay 3-4 dollars a month for some nice perks. Also the one factor many don't consider is the RNG when it comes to arena shards. Some people got lucky with a good shard, few whales, easy climbs, less of a cutthroat and more chill shards that share. Others got bad luck, stacked shards, lot's of whales, too competitive, bad mod RNG, they got left behind.

The difference from those who can climb to the top 3s and those stuck in the top 100-50-20 when it comes to crystals is simply massive. This is why I'm always careful when I'm talking about f2p, some f2p doing 1/1 don't understand the struggle that other f2p are going through with the game.

Anyone below 100 doesn’t care enough to spend, so I’d forget about those huge numbers of people making up for whales. It comes down to this: People think that if they can spend more than everyone else, they will be the best, so they will pay for crazy expensive things. It’s much harder to get everyone to pay than to get the paying people to spend more.

"sir_Phantom_Jedi;c-1934780" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-1934691" wrote:

From what i have read here and watched on youtube, there appear to be 4 viable offensive teams at the top end of arena: drevan+malak, jkr, GG nuke, and Padme. Now, clearly from the meta report Drevan is the best defensive team, however I dont think this takes away from the fact that there are multiple viable teams.

Getting back to the OP; my arena shard has G13 Malaks in the top 30 and I don't have malak at all.
-I was running a fully maxed JKR team, couldn't beat any of them.
-So I maxed out the Padme team, nope, beat some badly modded teams but couldn't get into the top 20.
-Now I'm 1 piece away from G13 GG but even that is acknowledged in the youtube videos as a soft counter

The top 20 of my shard is identical teams, there is no variety.

I run a g13 Padmé team on a launch shard. I finish first if I have the time to play. Finished first yesterday and today. Everyone else runs all g13 Malak teams.

You gave up on Padmé too quickly.

Not let a six year old with crayons and a taste for paste decide one character is better than all the rest and nerf any character challenging that paste induced logic bubble

The only way to make a rock-paper-scissors meta that rewards investment is to make all three teams have a p2w element (by most standards, hoarded crystals always help).
I bet that would calm all the complainers. Facing 3 new exclusive meta teams in TW/GA every quarter while some can't manage their resources to get one sure seems like a good direction.

They know how to. They dont want to

"CCyrilS;c-1934786" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-1934691" wrote:

"Witness;d-211244" wrote:
How to make a Rock Paper Scissors meta with current teams:
1. GG unique - anytime GG is inflicted with fear or deathmark, he clears all debuffs, resets cooldowns, and immediately takes a bonus turn.

Honest question: what does a rock paper scissors meta look like to you?

From what i have read here and watched on youtube, there appear to be 4 viable offensive teams at the top end of arena: drevan+malak, jkr, GG nuke, and Padme. Now, clearly from the meta report Drevan is the best defensive team, however I dont think this takes away from the fact that there are multiple viable teams.

You forgot IG88 lead droids

Thats what I meant by the GG nuke team. Any droid team relying on GG

"Shenanigans052;c-1934948" wrote:
They know how to. They dont want to

I think this is, at least on some level, partially true. We basically had an interesting and "open" meta, right before Malak dropped. There were at least 3-4 viable teams at that point - then the nerf hammer was dropped (on Palp and JKA) and Malak was released. And here we are.

CG doesn't want an open meta that lends itself to creative theory crafting. They want to prescribe the meta to us and the only decision left to the players then is to pursue it or not - which, for most players really just means spend resources or not (either well managed crystal stashes or money to make up for not hoarding or directing resources into other farms, gear, etc.).

I don't know why people keep talking about a "rock, paper, scissors" meta in a PTW game. Other than the exception of brief transitions periods between character releases, such a meta is neither intended nor desired by the two most important groups in the game.

1. EA. They want people to have an incentive to spend. A spending incentive is a meta that comprised of the newest squad able to be obtained by money.
2. Whales. The people who spend want to know they are getting some sort of advantage for their money.

"7AnimalMother;c-1935045" wrote:
I don't know why people keep talking about a "rock, paper, scissors" meta in a PTW game. Other than the exception of brief transitions periods between character releases, such a meta is neither intended nor desired by the two most important groups in the game.

1. EA. They want people to have an incentive to spend. A spending incentive is a meta that comprised of the newest squad able to be obtained by money.
2. Whales. The people who spend want to know they are getting some sort of advantage for their money.

People keep talking about it because CG has said that want to create that environment. The first time I paid attention them saying that was around the release of ships 2.0.

"Scuttlebutt;c-1935051" wrote:

"7AnimalMother;c-1935045" wrote:
I don't know why people keep talking about a "rock, paper, scissors" meta in a PTW game. Other than the exception of brief transitions periods between character releases, such a meta is neither intended nor desired by the two most important groups in the game.

1. EA. They want people to have an incentive to spend. A spending incentive is a meta that comprised of the newest squad able to be obtained by money.
2. Whales. The people who spend want to know they are getting some sort of advantage for their money.

People keep talking about it because CG has said that want to create that environment. The first time I paid attention them saying that was around the release of ships 2.0.

CG also said they wanted to ease the carb/gun/eyeball/etc crunch with Kyro.