Hyperdrive bundle

"kello_511;c-2071739" wrote:

"RoninRedux;c-2071736" wrote:


You got value from those previous purchases for whatever time you had in advance of the hyperdrive bundle. You pay for time in this game which is exactly what you got, and there's no reason you should get any other refund

I am not sure what game you are playing, but we are not paying for "time" in this game, we are paying for character shards/blueprints or upgrades. If your explanation is true that we are only paying for "time" then are you saying at some point all the purchases people do will be taken away?

Look at it this way, If someone was to purchase the hyperdrive bundle first then the character packages, then those character shards and blueprints would stay in your inventory. Buying the hyperdrive bundle afterwards wipes the character shards and blueprints from your bundle by a flaw in the bundle description. The bundle description first says it does not add any shards or blueprints to your characters, but then later says it "tops up" those shards and blueprints to the intended level. So if you purchased a character bundle for Jedi Knight Anakin and get 40 shards and then get the hypdrive bundle at a later date, those 40 shards you purchased for cash gets wiped and you are back down to 0 shards even though your JKA is now at 5 star. If you have purchased something, then you should still have it, not have it taken away. That is my point.

Anything in this game is available for free, if you are willing to put in enough time. So when you pay for a toon instead of grind it out over time, you’re spending money in lieu of time to get it for free - hence “paying for time”.
You’re paying for early access to it, in other words.

The argument is, “you paid to have early access to JKA, and you got it”. So nothing is being taken away.

Saying all that, I’d love to get the shards to all the included toons/ships. For an end game player, that’s a LOT of shard shop currency. Which is why they structured it this way I believe, as that much currency would throw everything else out of whack.

Actually I did not get early access to JKA, I received only half the shards to get him. This happened on another character.

It should not matter what order you purchase things, yet for this bundle it does.

"RoninRedux;c-2071787" wrote:

"kello_511;c-2071739" wrote:

"RoninRedux;c-2071736" wrote:


You got value from those previous purchases for whatever time you had in advance of the hyperdrive bundle. You pay for time in this game which is exactly what you got, and there's no reason you should get any other refund

I am not sure what game you are playing, but we are not paying for "time" in this game, we are paying for character shards/blueprints or upgrades. If your explanation is true that we are only paying for "time" then are you saying at some point all the purchases people do will be taken away?

Look at it this way, If someone was to purchase the hyperdrive bundle first then the character packages, then those character shards and blueprints would stay in your inventory. Buying the hyperdrive bundle afterwards wipes the character shards and blueprints from your bundle by a flaw in the bundle description. The bundle description first says it does not add any shards or blueprints to your characters, but then later says it "tops up" those shards and blueprints to the intended level. So if you purchased a character bundle for Jedi Knight Anakin and get 40 shards and then get the hypdrive bundle at a later date, those 40 shards you purchased for cash gets wiped and you are back down to 0 shards even though your JKA is now at 5 star. If you have purchased something, then you should still have it, not have it taken away. That is my point.

Anything in this game is available for free, if you are willing to put in enough time. So when you pay for a toon instead of grind it out over time, you’re spending money in lieu of time to get it for free - hence “paying for time”.
You’re paying for early access to it, in other words.

The argument is, “you paid to have early access to JKA, and you got it”. So nothing is being taken away.

Saying all that, I’d love to get the shards to all the included toons/ships. For an end game player, that’s a LOT of shard shop currency. Which is why they structured it this way I believe, as that much currency would throw everything else out of whack.

Actually I did not get early access to JKA, I received only half the shards to get him. This happened on another character.

It should not matter what order you purchase things, yet for this bundle it does.

It would be great if it let you keep both, but the hyperdrive pack only “tops you up” to a specific level. Whether you had 0 shards or 144 doesn’t matter.

Unfortunately, it’s the way the bundle works and it is explained as such in the description. The younger your account is when you you buy the pack, the more value you get from it.

"Gifafi;c-2071759" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2071758" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2071752" wrote:

"Iam4u2NV;c-2069099" wrote:
Well then sounds like it's too late for me to bother...

I had every character in there at 7* already and I still grabbed it. It's easily the best value bundle they've ever done.

Your true statement only illustrates how gross the gaming industry has become.

someone buying something they see as having great value is proof of grossness? WELP

Never put it past you to miss the point.

WELP

"ZAP;c-2071758" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2071752" wrote:

"Iam4u2NV;c-2069099" wrote:
Well then sounds like it's too late for me to bother...

I had every character in there at 7* already and I still grabbed it. It's easily the best value bundle they've ever done.

Your true statement only illustrates how gross the gaming industry has become.

Or does it illustrate that they wanted to buy the pack simply because they wanted the other stuff the pack came with?

"ZAP;c-2071822" wrote:

"Gifafi;c-2071759" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2071758" wrote:

"Jarvind;c-2071752" wrote:

"Iam4u2NV;c-2069099" wrote:
Well then sounds like it's too late for me to bother...

I had every character in there at 7* already and I still grabbed it. It's easily the best value bundle they've ever done.

Your true statement only illustrates how gross the gaming industry has become.

someone buying something they see as having great value is proof of grossness? WELP

Never put it past you to miss the point.

WELP

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Ok, I’ll actually waste some time and be completely clear about my stance on what jarvind said.

One thing to keep in mind is that many things can be true at once.

Jarvind thinks the hyperdrive bundle is a great value for him, even though he has all the characters at 7*. So, it’s the gear, etc... that he says is the best value bundle they have ever offered.

If you do the math on what it would take to buy those items via crystals, you will see that what Jarvind is saying is 100% true and correct.

So, I agree with Jarvind that the hyperdrive bundle offers more value than we have had in the past in regards to just the gear and other stuff alone. If you’re a new player and also get a lot of char shards on top of that, then the value is exponentially greater. Compare what it would have cost you in 2016 to get all those shards via chromiums, not even close.

So, to be clear, in case you’re not following me to this point. THIS bundle is possibly the greatest value this game has ever offered on many levels! That’s undisputed based on history and math.

So, while that is true, it’s also true that the cost of gaming has gone up significantly in the past 10 years.

Here’s an analogy. Let’s say one day the price of doughnuts shot up to 20 bucks a piece. You like doughnuts, so you pay up and keep eating and paying the hiked price for your doughnuts. Then one day your doughnut dealer offers a doughnut pack for 20 bucks for 6 doughnuts. OMG this is such great value for doughnuts, thank you sir!

It is my OPINION that what is happening in the gaming industry is nothing short of gross. Maybe you guys can’t see it or haven’t been gaming that long and just think this is as it should be. Maybe in the next couple years when they continue to up the prices in gaming, you’ll continue to be content to spend.

"ZAP;c-2071866" wrote:
Ok, I’ll actually waste some time and be completely clear about my stance on what jarvind said.

One thing to keep in mind is that many things can be true at once.

Jarvind thinks the hyperdrive bundle is a great value for him, even though he has all the characters at 7*. So, it’s the gear, etc... that he says is the best value bundle they have ever offered.

If you do the math on what it would take to buy those items via crystals, you will see that what Jarvind is saying is 100% true and correct.

So, I agree with Jarvind that the hyperdrive bundle offers more value than we have had in the past in regards to just the gear and other stuff alone. If you’re a new player and also get a lot of char shards on top of that, then the value is exponentially greater. Compare what it would have cost you in 2016 to get all those shards via chromiums, not even close.

So, to be clear, in case you’re not following me to this point. THIS bundle is possibly the greatest value this game has ever offered on many levels! That’s undisputed based on history and math.

So, while that is true, it’s also true that the cost of gaming has gone up significantly in the past 10 years.

Here’s an analogy. Let’s say one day the price of doughnuts shot up to 20 bucks a piece. You like doughnuts, so you pay up and keep eating and paying the hiked price for your doughnuts. Then one day your doughnut dealer offers a doughnut pack for 20 bucks for 6 doughnuts. OMG this is such great value for doughnuts, thank you sir!

It is my OPINION that what is happening in the gaming industry is nothing short of gross. Maybe you guys can’t see it or haven’t been gaming that long and just think this is as it should be. Maybe in the next couple years when they continue to up the prices in gaming, you’ll continue to be content to spend.

You are discounting one thing, games have also gotten infinitely more complex and better in those same 10 years.

It is not the same product that is offered at a higher price 10 years later.

"ZAP;c-2071866" wrote:
Ok, I’ll actually waste some time and be completely clear about my stance on what jarvind said.

One thing to keep in mind is that many things can be true at once.

Jarvind thinks the hyperdrive bundle is a great value for him, even though he has all the characters at 7*. So, it’s the gear, etc... that he says is the best value bundle they have ever offered.

If you do the math on what it would take to buy those items via crystals, you will see that what Jarvind is saying is 100% true and correct.

So, I agree with Jarvind that the hyperdrive bundle offers more value than we have had in the past in regards to just the gear and other stuff alone. If you’re a new player and also get a lot of char shards on top of that, then the value is exponentially greater. Compare what it would have cost you in 2016 to get all those shards via chromiums, not even close.

So, to be clear, in case you’re not following me to this point. THIS bundle is possibly the greatest value this game has ever offered on many levels! That’s undisputed based on history and math.

So, while that is true, it’s also true that the cost of gaming has gone up significantly in the past 10 years.

Here’s an analogy. Let’s say one day the price of doughnuts shot up to 20 bucks a piece. You like doughnuts, so you pay up and keep eating and paying the hiked price for your doughnuts. Then one day your doughnut dealer offers a doughnut pack for 20 bucks for 6 doughnuts. OMG this is such great value for doughnuts, thank you sir!

It is my OPINION that what is happening in the gaming industry is nothing short of gross. Maybe you guys can’t see it or haven’t been gaming that long and just think this is as it should be. Maybe in the next couple years when they continue to up the prices in gaming, you’ll continue to be content to spend.

Yes, prices have gone up and it's crazy to think that when Nintendo originally came out the console would cost you $100. So yes, a pack at the same price is crazy to think about.

That being said, the manpower put into making games these days is far greater than it ever was before. One of my favorite all times games, Metroid, takes only about an hour or 2 beat... the entire game!

So yes prices have gone up, but so has the quality of product. We are lucky enough to play a game that costs absolutely nothing but time to play. People can spend if they want and no that's not gross. If prices go up and people continue to spend that also is not gross. Consumers consume and profiteers profit. That's capitalism.

I think Adventure cost my dad like 40 bucks.

I wouldn't pay $0.25 to play pacman today.