I hate this 50 banner threshold for rewards

@robjeyaraj 's issue is that he/she wasn't able to generate 50 points to qualify for TW rewards.
That "vacuums" when it happens.

My question to robjeyaraj is: What is so difficult about placing two teams/fleets on defense during the first 12 to 16 hours of TW setup in order to guarantee rewards? Doing so will give you over 60 points.

"Notthatguyfrombefore;c-2456456" wrote:

"Schwartzring;c-2456417" wrote:
I see both sides.

I find the 50 banners rule to be annoying.

I regularly set defense & with 7 GLs, I'm unlikely to not be able to pull off 50 on offense, but the rule itself is not a great one.

If you have freeloaders in your guild then its on the officers to boot them.

That said, it should also be on the officers to list what is needed for defense & no one should be dropping their entire force on defense blocking others from having any shot.

Now, if you show up to deploy defense w/ 30 minutes left, and found it full, well you shouldn't have waited so long.

The solution should probably be a lower figure, like, 5-10 so a single success on a previously hit team counts v/s 3 moderately successful hits on fresh opponents.

Obviously skipping defense is bad, but, I can honestly say with a grocery shopping trip Friday night & an HOA Board Election Saturday morning that I missed defense on our last TW with the distractions.
It happens.
I still hammered offense for 300-400 points but I can see if your guild happens to be facing some OP target that puts up GL walls that your not equipped to break that it might be a problem occasionally.

I wouldn’t mind them dropping it to, say, 10 points, but at the end of the day that threshold has to be arbitrarily set somewhere.

Playing devil’s advocate on the theme of IRL distractions, yes, sometimes life gets in the way, and a player might miss def and depending on time zones they might miss a lot of the offence phase as well. But in those cases the player hasn’t actually contributed to a victory or loss for their guild, so….

do they then actually deserve any rewards?

It used to be 10 points. They raised it fairly recently to 50. Not sure why, don't think they made an announcement, just kind of slipped it into some release notes.

I could be wrong but I think the change was when they boosted higher end TW defense requirements & changed the rewards a year+ish ago.

"Notthatguyfrombefore;c-2456456" wrote:

But in those cases the player hasn’t actually contributed to a victory or loss for their guild, so….

do they then actually deserve any rewards?

The OP said they threw 4 GLs & a Reva team against the GL Wall of targets & did manage to get 30 points.

So I'd say, YES, they did contribute & did deserve something.

"Schwartzring;c-2456566" wrote:

"Notthatguyfrombefore;c-2456456" wrote:

But in those cases the player hasn’t actually contributed to a victory or loss for their guild, so….

do they then actually deserve any rewards?

The OP said they threw 4 GLs & a Reva team against the GL Wall of targets & did manage to get 30 points.

So I'd say, YES, they did contribute & did deserve something.

I was responding more to the general comment as to minimum levels of activity required for rewards in TW, rather than addressing the specific OPs issue.

As to the OPs particular situation, yes they did something, but it seems like a pretty low bar to have 5 teams and only get 30 points, as even a single toon win against a team that’s been hit 2+ times before still nets you 6 points. 30 points seems more like a pair of wins and a few losses. Is that enough to merit rewards? As I said above I’d be happy for the bar to be at 10 points, CG on the other hand don’t think so.

Also, if this is the third time of that it’s happened, then the OP seems to be slacking a bit on TW defence. Or perhaps the time zones of their guild are incompatible with their personal time zone. Either way if you’ve failed to hit 50 banners thrice in recent memory then something’s not going right.