The only thing GAC cares about now when determining skill rating is wins vs loses. it initially placed you in a general bracket based on your GP. This no longer matters. What matter is if you win or not. You win you go against others who win. they may be way more then you can handle but thats only being determined once you actually lose. If you lose you go against others who lose. so essentially you keep winning you go agaisnt tougher and tougher opponents until you cant win. if you keep losing you go against weaker and weaker until you get to the point a monkey could win the fight. People claiming GAC is flawed now are just cry babies that they arent winning every round or as many as they used to because the system is actually a lot fairer now. No more inflated GP changing match ups. You have 1 or 2 fewer GLs take it as a compliment that your technique has gotten you to that level. This system is designed that you will go around 6/12 per GAC season. sometimes you may win one or two more and others lose one or two more but overall you will sit around that level. The only ones this doesn't pertain to is the top 50 or so players as they may go nearly perfect every season. But they keep going against others who are at that same level. Gone are the days of a kraken going against a minnow or ftp account unless the krakan intentionally throws to get some easier rounds which because the rewards isnt likely to happen.

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"Edosmage;c-2339135" wrote:"Modscankissmyaz;c-2339094" wrote:"Edosmage;c-2339084" wrote:You can't have a matchmaking system based on skill rating when not everyone have the same tools. I have a 4.3M GP account (1 GL and aiming for the second one), and i consider myself an average player, there is no way in hell that i can beat people with 4 to 6 GL. Suposse that Hawkeyes, Peempo, Fatal or someone upthere switch accounts with me, even with their skills there's no chance they can beat me, so, it's not based on "skills".With this new system you have a few choices, you can either win, win, loose, loose, win and give a sh... or you can frustrate yourself and start spending if you can, or just frustrate and swalow the anger.And this isn't just theory. If you need a real life example, check Ahnald. His main account, all GLs, approx 9 million GP was top 4 in the world for a little while (now about 20-40).His f2p account? Stuck in Bronze, losing more often than not.Just accept you'll win 50%.The only way to get higher is by spending money up until you have 9m+ account AND getting super deep knowledge of the game (a. k. a 'skills'). Because then, and only then, the game won't be able to match you with someone that'll surely crush you. Yeah, i watch all of his streams. A few weeks ago his f2p account went against a 4M one, even with his skills nothing to do there. So this so call skill rating matchmaking system was another move to pass control over CG of the crystal resources and nothing more.You reach a cealing, want to go furter? Wale harder! XD"Even with his skills"

"Edosmage;c-2339084" wrote:You can't have a matchmaking system based on skill rating when not everyone have the same tools. I have a 4.3M GP account (1 GL and aiming for the second one), and i consider myself an average player, there is no way in hell that i can beat people with 4 to 6 GL. Suposse that Hawkeyes, Peempo, Fatal or someone upthere switch accounts with me, even with their skills there's no chance they can beat me, so, it's not based on "skills".With this new system you have a few choices, you can either win, win, loose, loose, win and give a sh... or you can frustrate yourself and start spending if you can, or just frustrate and swalow the anger.Well, you hit the nail on the head without knowing it in your first sentence. Match making is now based on a metric they have introduced called "skill rating" (as you correctly called it). Not skill. Skill rating. Player skill rating comes from wins and losses. Wins and losses come from a player's roster and how they use it. Player rosters come from how well players manage resources, how long they've been playing, and possibly how much money they spend.They will never have a pure skill contest in this game, because what would be the incentive to improve your roster? If you got carefully matched against people with the same number/power tier of GLs, same mod power, same meta teams, why would you want to improve? Any time you added anything it would instantly change your match making so the opponent has it too. They want you to keep growing your roster. And they definitely want people who spend money to see that help their performance.

This is designed to push you forward until you get matched with people you can't beat. The only way around this is to whale. You can feel one way or the other about that, but you can't deny that this was done along their general design theory of frustration = spending. And it isn't linear purely based on wins and losses. If you paid any attention to how your skill rating changed you would know that.

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St4rlace
3 years ago
"Kisakee;c-2339319" wrote:
"StewartH;c-2339293" wrote:
"Kisakee;c-2339279" wrote:
"Crayons;c-2339277" wrote:
Your rewards are not tied to skill. They are tied directly to how much you’ve spent/how long you’ve played. Only big spenders or the most ancient of accounts can reach the highest reward tiers. Your skill is irrelevant. Strange they even call it skill based. They should just be honest and call it the “how much you’ve spent/how long you’ve played rewards based system”

Of course you need to play for some time to get the best rewards, this isn't a FPS. You're building up over years, how frustrating would it be if someone could come around the corner and defeat you with bare hands. If you want to win by pure skill go and play some COD or Overwatch or whatever is hip this week.

I agree that players that have spent/played forever should benefit in some way but what incentive is there for a new player to attempt to be competitive? How do you propose a newer player catch up?

Spending alone wont do it unless everyone near the top agrees to stop spending so they can catch up.

Simple: You don't. Why is everyone thinking that you need to catch up on players being there for years? You have your own enemies to fight with - other new players. You can still be competitive even on low end, there's just no need to target veterans except when in your own mind "being competitive" means "making everyone lose no matter how long they have played or how much

Everyone is thinking that because CG made it so by throwing every player together, new and old. Before you always could reach Kyber and feel accomplished and get the rewards, now you know you will never reach Kyber as a new player and you will never get the rewards. The main reason people want to climb now is because CG made it our crystal source. And the lower you are the lower your rewards are. So yes people don't enjoy to be stuck on the low end and watch the gap getting bigger and bigger because the accounts above you grow faster because they get more crystals.

This is exactly what the other person meant when they said there has to be incentive for new players and at the moment it is lacking.
Disruptor92
Seasoned Traveler
3 years ago
"Kisakee;c-2339651" wrote:
"Lumiya;c-2339598" wrote:
"Kisakee;c-2339319" wrote:
Simple: You don't. Why is everyone thinking that you need to catch up on players being there for years? You have your own enemies to fight with - other new players. You can still be competitive even on low end, there's just no need to target veterans except when in your own mind "being competitive" means "making everyone lose no matter how long they have played or how much

Everyone is thinking that because CG made it so by throwing every player together, new and old. Before you always could reach Kyber and feel accomplished and get the rewards, now you know you will never reach Kyber as a new player and you will never get the rewards. The main reason people want to climb now is because CG made it our crystal source. And the lower you are the lower your rewards are. So yes people don't enjoy to be stuck on the low end and watch the gap getting bigger and bigger because the accounts above you grow faster because they get more crystals.

This is exactly what the other person meant when they said there has to be incentive for new players and at the moment it is lacking.

You seem to forget that all players now get at least 55 crystals per day for basically doing nothing, before you had to be in arena top 50 to get 50 crystals. Newer players are in a way better spot than ever especially with the double drop rates and free gear every day for completing daily quests.
Sure, higher accounts will get more and grow faster but you're already in a way better spot every newby has ever been when you unlock GAC. From there it's up to you what you'll make out of it.

Yup, agreed. The only players that suffer from it are the new accounts that (under the old system) would get first in SA and get 500 crystals daily. They now lose out on a chunk of those simple due to being in a low league. But the majority of the new players still benefits from it, as they get way more crystals through daily GAC rewards and win/end of round rewards than they'd ever get from finishing at like rank 100 in SA. It's only a very small minority of new players that are ACTUALLY losing out.

Sure, the Kyber players still get more, but catching up to veterans was never in the cards for new players anyway, unless they spend unholy amounts of money. I still don't even understand why there is even a need to catch up. New players always fight other new players in the arenas, will usually be in a very low-level guild with other new players, and will mostly face other new players in GAC. Just play the game and progress at your own pace, and have fun with it. The only thing that trying to catch up to veterans does is causing headaches for yourself. Do yourself a favor and stop thinking about catching the 9M guy that started playing 6 years ago. "Skipping" progress isn't a thing. You need to put effort into it just like we did when we started out. Just keep playing the game and one day you'll be that 9M guy (maybe, lol).

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