"Mullato;893349" wrote:
"Vertigo;893339" wrote:
"Mullato;893329" wrote:
"Vertigo;893326" wrote:
"Mullato;893322" wrote:
"AndrewIss;893306" wrote:
"Acrofales;892578" wrote:
I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.
That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...
It does trigger biggs, just experienced in GW
No it doesn't. You might be talking about his heal move triggering Biggs.
@Mullato
Crackling doom CAN give Biggs 100% TM, but only if it is a Crit. Crackling doom isn't tagged as Empire damage, but it's still damage that can crit just like any other damage. If it crits and Biggs isn't shocked, Biggs will gain 100% TM.
Oh OK, never seen it CRIT.
I don't really know what to tell you other than to watch more carefully? You've probably already shocked Biggs before it crits him anyways.
Not saying I don't believe you, but that's beside the point. All I'm saying is If it doesn't proc Biggs on a non-crit then it's not empire. So since it's not empire it also shouldn't TMR Jedi and rebels.
According to the swgoh.hh mechanics, Zader's lead (https://swgoh.gg/characters/darth-vader/ability/inspiring-through-fear) applies the -20% TM to enemies hit by "affiliation_empire" and "profession_sith" allies. It's not being hit by "empire_damage" or "sith_damage" (I don't think there is a sith damage tag I just made that one up), it's being damaged by an ally that is tagged as empire affiliated or a sith. That's why TFP and Shoretrooper are able to remove TM despite their damage not actually being tagged "empire_damage." So it doesn't actually need to be "empire_damage" to remove TM, although I'd agree I don't think the base rebel/jedi damage should give TM removal either, that's rather un-strategic. If they are shocked, thats a different story imo.
"Mullato;893372" wrote:
"AndrewIss;893370" wrote:
"Mullato;893360" wrote:
"AndrewIss;893355" wrote:
"Mullato;893349" wrote:
"Vertigo;893339" wrote:
"Mullato;893329" wrote:
"Vertigo;893326" wrote:
"Mullato;893322" wrote:
"AndrewIss;893306" wrote:
"Acrofales;892578" wrote:
I don't think Crackling Doom triggers Biggs either (and it can't kill people), so I think it doesn't get treated as damage done by EP.
That said, I'll wait to see how they fix the bug before complaining...
It does trigger biggs, just experienced in GW
No it doesn't. You might be talking about his heal move triggering Biggs.
@Mullato
Crackling doom CAN give Biggs 100% TM, but only if it is a Crit. Crackling doom isn't tagged as Empire damage, but it's still damage that can crit just like any other damage. If it crits and Biggs isn't shocked, Biggs will gain 100% TM.
Oh OK, never seen it CRIT.
I don't really know what to tell you other than to watch more carefully? You've probably already shocked Biggs before it crits him anyways.
Not saying I don't believe you, but that's beside the point. All I'm saying is If it doesn't proc Biggs on a non-crit then it's not empire. So since it's not empire it also shouldn't TMR Jedi and rebels.
So we found the source of the bug, but still a bug
But what if that's WAI. Since it's technically not direct damage coming from an empire attack. It's just special damage coming from a passive.
If it's WAI it's not DAI (DESCRIBED as intended).
As such, I will need back all the resources I spent on Vader, EP, Biggs, Wedge
Did you not care half a year ago when palpatine first came out? Because it's been working the same way this whole time.
I think the special damage coming from the passive probably just isn't directly coming from EP, EXCEPT when he has them shocked, so that could be why it currently doesn't remove TM from jedi/rebels (which is probably a good thing). WAI? Maybe? Working as described? Not exactly, but we've already seen that wording and descriptions for a lot of skills are up for debate about what they really mean. The main bug with Zader's lead is removing TM from targets that aren't actually taking damage, I don't think EP will be changed if they fix that bug.
