Is F2P dying a slow death?

"Shadowscream;c-1639859" wrote:
Just need to Zeta Old Ben and my Jedi will be rock solid.

I'm praying this isn't a euphemism.

"BubbaFett;c-1640105" wrote:
I don't get why people keep whining about a 3* bastila being viable....

1- It's not like the whole team can be 3*, just her....
2- Hoda is not easy to get, takes a lot of GETS and ignoring gear
3- GMY is a legendary, like Palp
4- GK is a raid toon and hard AF to gear (yes, some use old Ben)
5- Bastila teams don't hold on D, especially 3* ones
6- Ezra is super easy farm, but if you want him on this team, best farm Sabine for phx

It’s quite simple to understand. It takes FTP and casual spenders months to level toons like Sion, Nihilus, etc but these toons were extremely valuable in arena and worth the farm. And then CG says screw your hard work, we’re gonna release random marquee toon who can easily defeat a fully geared 12 team at 3* just cuz we know whales can’t help themselves and will drop $$$$ to level up all these marquee toons that have been released these last 8 months. If you can’t see the absurdity in this, you’re either a whale or an apologist.

"JerrickKharr87;c-1640208" wrote:

"BubbaFett;c-1640105" wrote:
I don't get why people keep whining about a 3* bastila being viable....

1- It's not like the whole team can be 3*, just her....
2- Hoda is not easy to get, takes a lot of GETS and ignoring gear
3- GMY is a legendary, like Palp
4- GK is a raid toon and hard AF to gear (yes, some use old Ben)
5- Bastila teams don't hold on D, especially 3* ones
6- Ezra is super easy farm, but if you want him on this team, best farm Sabine for phx

It’s quite simple to understand. It takes FTP and casual spenders months to level toons like Sion, Nihilus, etc but these toons were extremely valuable in arena and worth the farm. And then CG says screw your hard work, we’re gonna release random marquee toon who can easily defeat a fully geared 12 team at 3* just cuz we know whales can’t help themselves and will drop $$$$ to level up all these marquee toons that have been released these last 8 months. If you can’t see the absurdity in this, you’re either a whale or an apologist.

Living in such an extreme binary world is way too restricting. Only if it were so easy to classify ppl as a whale or an apologist on this forum lol.

Unfortunatly the best and usual answer we can provide that makes it “fair” to most is - it sucks for everyone.

Spending real money gets you there faster - that’s the model. I don’t see ea ever breaking new ground to change this.

I believe what most “apologists” like myself are saying - it is possible to contend being completely ftp. Much harder. But I will say most ftp are “better” at this game because they are forced to really know the game.

As a f2p player, my main bugbear is the neglect shown to stores. GW/Arena/Ship stores should have some new toons at times. As things stand, I'm trying to farm 2 ship nodes (nest and troy calrissian), three ds hard nodes(bossk, visas, range trooper). CHS in cantina nodes and talzin in LS hard battles. Even if you ignore the neglect of the stores, there has been a recent imbalance of hard node toons. most have been dark side nodes. I can understand CG/EA not wanting to put new toons into stores, but why not older ones such as Aayla, B2, tuskans, JKA etc. The structure and difficulty of the sith raid was also a F2P slap in the face. Many F2P players ended up being removed from guilds, or having guilds disbanded since spenders quite rightly wanted DT shards from HSTR. My solution to the issues would be 1. Never release any content that would encourage guilds to be destroyed such as HSTR. 2. Release older hard to farm toons into stores.

I don’t know if f2p is dying - certain feels that way in some respects - but I can say for sure that the game just somehow seems more BORING as of late. New characters being released don’t fill me with any kind of joy and to be honest evoke the opposite reaction when I think about doing a HM farm that seems to average one shard a day even when simming 7-8 battles at once... then that’s not to mention gearing them with the ridiculous stun gun etc. grind... and then G12+ pieces... :(

"zaljko_petrescu;c-1641699" wrote:
I don’t know if f2p is dying - certain feels that way in some respects - but I can say for sure that the game just somehow seems more BORING as of late. New characters being released don’t fill me with any kind of joy and to be honest evoke the opposite reaction when I think about doing a HM farm that seems to average one shard a day even when simming 7-8 battles at once... then that’s not to mention gearing them with the ridiculous stun gun etc. grind... and then G12+ pieces... :(

Yeah maybe that’s my problem. I’m just bored. Arena is super stale with mega whales whaling out on Traya. Too many toons, not enough resources. It’s becoming too much of a bore.

"Austin09370;c-1641712" wrote:

"JerrickKharr87;c-1641700" wrote:

"zaljko_petrescu;c-1641699" wrote:
I don’t know if f2p is dying - certain feels that way in some respects - but I can say for sure that the game just somehow seems more BORING as of late. New characters being released don’t fill me with any kind of joy and to be honest evoke the opposite reaction when I think about doing a HM farm that seems to average one shard a day even when simming 7-8 battles at once... then that’s not to mention gearing them with the ridiculous stun gun etc. grind... and then G12+ pieces... :(

Yeah maybe that’s my problem. I’m just bored. Arena is super stale with mega whales whaling out on Traya. Too many toons, not enough resources. It’s becoming too much of a bore.

To be fair, "whaling out on Traya' doesn't make any sense as she's FTP and many whales don't have her. It's more of the legacy players that have her because they are in stronger guilds with people who have been playing long as they have.

As far as FTP with the slow death, people have been saying that day 1. FTP is fine and will be fine. It's just that 6 month players can't expect to keep up with 2 year players for obvious reasons..

You make think it is fine and that's your opinion. The truth is the gap is slowly widening and soon will pick up more and more speed. G12 and 6 dot mods being gated behind is going to create a huge gap once the P2P get their toons equipped with them.

Soon unless your lucky enough to be on a dead shard top spots in arena and fleet will be unobtainable. Plus whatever legendary they planning on releasing and assuming the Toons needed will either be on HN or Ship HN in 6 months or so means it will be a year and half or 2 hears out before F2P has a shot at it.

So yeah I think F2P competively is dying. Slowly right now but it will pick up speed. If you are F2P I think you need to start getting your mind set to just have fun and play with your favorite star wars Toons and forget about trying to compete unless like I said you happen to be lucky on a half dead shard.

"BubbaFett;c-1641981" wrote:

"Dk_rek;c-1641970" wrote:

"BubbaFett;c-1641961" wrote:

"Warp3dM1nd;c-1641698" wrote:

"BubbaFett;c-1641454" wrote:

"Dk_rek;c-1640961" wrote:
I got 120 toons i cannot gear because 6 stun guns a day when you need thousands of them.... everything else can be had.... greeeeeeed

Then stop farming sonkamybtoons and start farming stun guns.... You can do.refreshes and sim for them, get them in the shard shop or get store..... Choices....

Lol farm them....6 stun guns equals 300 salvage. You can't farm that in a week including whatever you get from raids and everything else. I have 60 Toons needing stun guns and that's not counting the ones the need multiple stun guns. So I'm looking at roughly farming 5000+ stun salvage which will take roughly a year.

That's not including any of the new Toons released or legendaries coming up. It's beyond laughable that have 1000s or more of multiple pieces yet instead of CG utilizing those underused gears they would rather keep the massive bottle neck of stun guns going. Oh and I'm sure the new Toons will need their fair share as well so might as well add another couple of thousand to that.

It will literally take 8 months to a year just to gear some of my main toon teams. Some I don't have a choice I have to because they are pilots and since ships 2.0 screwed us. I don't really have a choice.

Or you can whale it out and pay what 20 bucks per stun gun. That's a nice profit of 10 grand or more. SMH I really do hope Apple and Google follow through and yank EAs whole app collection for practices such as these.

So, how did you get the 60 toons?.... You farmed them obviously.... Maybe you should have farmed 30 toons and spent the rest of that energy on stun guns and you wouldn't have 60 toons and no guns.....

Facepalm

Lol..... Great insight....

Pretty sure that was in support of the painfully obvious logic of your initial post! I think many of us completely agree. The whole 'I chose to spend my energy on unlocking toons and now I can't gear them...because I spend all of my energy unlocking toons' argument is tired. The game is about choices everyone. Make them.

And I would hope anyone with a roster north of 2M GP has somewhere between 40-60 toons waiting on a stun gun. GoH's happens to be gear (yes, typically stun guns and carbantis). So be it. Of course it will take you eight months - otherwise you'd have 3M GP after playing the game for six months. How would that be any fun?

I got 2 complete stun guns done this last week.....Ship Energy (5E), and all other currency.
I’ll get 2 more this week.....
It’s about choices!
I’d rather get my existing characters to G11+ this next 2 months than whine about having dozens of undergeared characters. Next 2 Stun Guns will go to Kanan..... :)

"Warp3dM1nd;c-1641729" wrote:

"Austin09370;c-1641712" wrote:

"JerrickKharr87;c-1641700" wrote:

"zaljko_petrescu;c-1641699" wrote:
I don’t know if f2p is dying - certain feels that way in some respects - but I can say for sure that the game just somehow seems more BORING as of late. New characters being released don’t fill me with any kind of joy and to be honest evoke the opposite reaction when I think about doing a HM farm that seems to average one shard a day even when simming 7-8 battles at once... then that’s not to mention gearing them with the ridiculous stun gun etc. grind... and then G12+ pieces... :(

Yeah maybe that’s my problem. I’m just bored. Arena is super stale with mega whales whaling out on Traya. Too many toons, not enough resources. It’s becoming too much of a bore.

To be fair, "whaling out on Traya' doesn't make any sense as she's FTP and many whales don't have her. It's more of the legacy players that have her because they are in stronger guilds with people who have been playing long as they have.

As far as FTP with the slow death, people have been saying that day 1. FTP is fine and will be fine. It's just that 6 month players can't expect to keep up with 2 year players for obvious reasons..

You make think it is fine and that's your opinion. The truth is the gap is slowly widening and soon will pick up more and more speed. G12 and 6 dot mods being gated behind is going to create a huge gap once the P2P get their toons equipped with them.

Soon unless your lucky enough to be on a dead shard top spots in arena and fleet will be unobtainable. Plus whatever legendary they planning on releasing and assuming the Toons needed will either be on HN or Ship HN in 6 months or so means it will be a year and half or 2 hears out before F2P has a shot at it.

So yeah I think F2P competively is dying. Slowly right now but it will pick up speed. If you are F2P I think you need to start getting your mind set to just have fun and play with your favorite star wars Toons and forget about trying to compete unless like I said you happen to be lucky on a half dead shard.

I think it's more about your mindset and less about the game changing for the competiveness of FTP.

The real change is that there will be less of a margin for error with FTP resource management... If you prioritize mod slicing and rarity 6 for arena teams you'll be fine. Its the same thing when mods were first introduced. Those who chose to ignore suffered and those who prioritized succeeded. At the end of the day, your arena team can only have 5 characters and FTP will catch up. It's just the individuals choice of how long that gap will be and in the current environment, speed has never mattered so little.

However, the dream would be to lock down some bottom feeders from climbing too high in arena just because they unlocked a raid characters (Traya). It better have gear and great mods to be successful too!

Full disclosure I prepared for mods 2.0 by banking 5k in crystals to burn on mod energy. It's gone now, but I had some great updates and it was well worth it.