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"Kyno;c-2125800" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125633" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:
"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.
We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.
Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.
Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.
They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.
None of us except you see proof that they "Care". Your word rings hollow. If they cared and gave a crap about the community the they would have been more open and communicative with us.
I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. What you think about me or my words doesnt change the truth. That's the wonderful thing about the truth.
Truth is you have a different perception than a lot of people because you get more communication than we do. "Kyno;c-2125800" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125633" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:
"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.
We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.
Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.
Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.
They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.
None of us except you see proof that they "Care". Your word rings hollow. If they cared and gave a crap about the community the they would have been more open and communicative with us.
I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. What you think about me or my words doesn't change the truth. That's the wonderful thing about the truth.
I can appreciate that there is a factual truth that isn't affected by anyone's opinions. In this case, we just have to take, literally only, your word about what the truth is. If I kept the truth in a box and wouldn't show it to anyone else, could I blame anyone for not believing me?
I fully believe it's possible that CG has told you or shown you that they care about the community's response. That's great. Now show us. In this case, the old adage is true, actions speak louder than words. But we don't even have words."Vi1teran_;c-2125802" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125800" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125633" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:
"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.
We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.
Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.
Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.
They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.
None of us except you see proof that they "Care". Your word rings hollow. If they cared and gave a crap about the community the they would have been more open and communicative with us.
I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. What you think about me or my words doesnt change the truth. That's the wonderful thing about the truth.
Truth is you have a different perception than a lot of people because you get more communication than we do.
I understand that, and this fact is not lost on me. We have been talking more as of late about ways to try and change this (before the recent situation)."Kyno;c-2125813" wrote:
"Vi1teran_;c-2125802" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125800" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125633" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:
"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.
We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.
Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.
Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.
They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.
None of us except you see proof that they "Care". Your word rings hollow. If they cared and gave a crap about the community the they would have been more open and communicative with us.
I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. What you think about me or my words doesnt change the truth. That's the wonderful thing about the truth.
Truth is you have a different perception than a lot of people because you get more communication than we do.
I understand that, and this fact is not lost on me. We have been talking more as of late about ways to try and change this (before the recent situation).
Which vague "we'll try to continue to communicate better" time was this? Lord knows we've been down this road a time or two or twelve.
We, or better yet a billion dollars of revenue, deserve more than what's been attempted (not even done, mind, attempted!).- I can only speak for myself here, but I agree with the original premise 100%. This is a very good game, but if it doesn't make you happy any more then you should move on to a new game. Splatoon came out 5 years ago, are you still playing it two hours every day? If so, convratulations, I'm happy that you found a game you enjoy so much! But if you spend more time on the Splatoon forum complaining that there isn't enough for you to do, then maybe you should just buy a new game.
To quote a weird man, "It's only game. Why you heff to be mad?"
Maybe you expect something new to be added into the game that will recapture the magic of when you started--but the magic of when you started was that every day you would collect new and more interesting characters and those characters would help you build towards other characters. There was a simple iterative process: Work on Jedi Consular to make GW easier so you could get Luminara so you could go further in the tables to get Rey so you could finish better in Arena. By now your characters are pretty much done. Whether that means they're all worked on or only the "good" ones are worked on and the rest aren't even unlocked is your call. I find it fun to level up even characters I'm not going to use (point of pride--I have 6 abilities left on my roster that aren't Omega'd yet! By the end of the month I'll be set so that the only abilities left to upgrade are zetas!) so I'm not done yet. But if you look at the newest characters and lament "What do you MEAN I have to put gear on Leia? Ughggghghhghghhhhh...." then you probably don't find it fun. So, again, just move on. It's okay. The game will continue without you, there'll be new players who get to experience that initial magic. Meanwhile you can go to some other game and start the cycle over again--magic, then plateau, then boredom, then anger. "Ravens1113;c-2125832" wrote:
No.
Expecting basic communication and consistent content releases is not asking too much from a billion dollar game.
100%"John_Matrix1985;c-2125454" wrote:
Personally I think the game is fine and I would prefer no new content for 6 months. Take a break and let things calm down a bit and let people catch up.
Isn’t that what we’ve been doing?"Kyno;c-2125798" wrote:
"ZAP;c-2125628" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:
"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.
We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.
Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.
Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.
They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.
You show the community every day how much you care about the game and the community.
CG shows the community every day how much they don’t care about the community and only care about money.
You talking to some staff there does not mean you can possibly know they care, just as much as none of us can possibly know for a fact they don’t care. What we can see, however, are actions that show the exact opposite of caring for the community and its concerns.
Whatever happened with the beta test program? Not a single update on that yet.
Whatever happened to the dev tracker? Not a single word or update on that, despite top hat saying he was gonna have a meeting to discuss it and get back to us.
The list goes on and on.
Obviously everyone has there own perspective on things, but just saying they dont care doesn't make it true.
You mean the new version of it that they announced was launched and is in its early stages and what not:
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/227487/player-early-evaluation-test-program#latest
The tracker, yeah that's got an interesting back story to it right now. Hopefully they iron things out there.
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Sure there are things on both sides of the argument, but its true they do care.
Just like pointing out that some of things that are said here dont mean that some of the players dont care, are not necessarily true.
Oh yeah, what about the “what kinds of data do guild officers want?” that was started by crumb on Jan 10th. I believe that’s the one that top hat addressed in the last Q&A that he’d call a meeting to find out what’s going on with that and get back to us.
5 months later and still nothing updated on this.
Just another opportunity to show the community they care and they drop the ball and show the opposite."Kyno;c-2125972" wrote:
"ZAP;c-2125934" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125798" wrote:
"ZAP;c-2125628" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:
"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:
"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.
We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.
Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.
Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.
They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.
You show the community every day how much you care about the game and the community.
CG shows the community every day how much they don’t care about the community and only care about money.
You talking to some staff there does not mean you can possibly know they care, just as much as none of us can possibly know for a fact they don’t care. What we can see, however, are actions that show the exact opposite of caring for the community and its concerns.
Whatever happened with the beta test program? Not a single update on that yet.
Whatever happened to the dev tracker? Not a single word or update on that, despite top hat saying he was gonna have a meeting to discuss it and get back to us.
The list goes on and on.
Obviously everyone has there own perspective on things, but just saying they dont care doesn't make it true.
You mean the new version of it that they announced was launched and is in its early stages and what not:
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/227487/player-early-evaluation-test-program#latest
The tracker, yeah that's got an interesting back story to it right now. Hopefully they iron things out there.
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Sure there are things on both sides of the argument, but its true they do care.
Just like pointing out that some of things that are said here dont mean that some of the players dont care, are not necessarily true.
Oh yeah, what about the “what kinds of data do guild officers want?” that was started by crumb on Jan 10th. I believe that’s the one that top hat addressed in the last Q&A that he’d call a meeting to find out what’s going on with that and get back to us.
5 months later and still nothing updated on this.
Just another opportunity to show the community they care and they drop the ball and show the opposite.
That is a fair misrepresentation of things but sure.
(It cant be 5 months with nothing and have them address it in the QA)
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As they have said and pointed out many times things go in cycles and often things are tied to a release that has common thing or background things with it.
Should they give more updates and communicate more on topics like this yes. Does that mean they dont care, no.
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There are points on both sides of this topic. Again, it doesnt change the truth of the matter. Dont worry I know you will not allow yourself to be seen as saying they are not the villains here.
Can they do things better, yes. As I'm sure we can all agree, we all could.
Crumb makes that thread on Jan 10th.
On April 23rd, 3 1/2 months later, someone asks what’s happening with it. TopHat, says, I’ll call a meeting and find out and get back to you.
Nearly 2 months later, still nothing from TopHat or crumb on the matter.
Most of the relevant and important things officers want were posted in that thread in the first month.
I’m not trying to misrepresent anything, just pointing out examples of them showing us they don’t care about the community or at least they don’t put much emphasis on updating the community. Either way, just another thing started with no follow up or update given to the community.- SchwartzringRising Traveler
"Unknownsoldier;c-2125698" wrote:
I’m glad someone is still using their noggin and offering constructive suggestions like these and not just grabbing a pitchfork and tying CG at the stake.
This is exactly what I feel. Everything is scheduled in this game in so much that you feel that you need to have to constantly have the game at the back of your mind if you want to stay competitive. I mean in order to get our free 45 energy you need to have us log in at a certain time in order to promote playing but the thing is there’s not enough to do in the game anyway. I login at certain times a day and I’m done, as I can do the daily objectives in a couple of minutes and then I’m stuck trying to find something to do in the game like mindlessly scavenging for relic parts or trying to check every character to see if I have extra gear to upgrade them.
Thanks, I do try to use that thing on top of my shoulders :)
And Thanks for mentioning the 45's, I forgot to mention those above.
Yes, my idea for the 45's is simple too.
Instead of 6 separate "rewards" that hit us at 3 different times a day, and they expire after 2 hours so god forbid you were in a work meeting & then miss the noon triple refresh..... can you say GRRRR
How about, make it 4 rewards, 45-45-45-135, for the same energy, and have them ONLY spawn 1x a day and don't expire for 23 hours instead of 2 hours.
Like to make this really easy, just have the energy log in's be at our Payout hour when we know we will likely be on. And have all 4 spawn at the same time, and then stay up for 23-24 hours.
I say 23 since maybe for PC processing you don't want them expiring/spawning at the same time.
But point is, we have the ability to grab them all at the same time & burn them in between our PVP fights that already have that stupid 10 minute lock out timer for a 5 minute fight.
Honestly, heck, better yet, have the quests spawn 1 hour before our set payout time. You know, when we are all logging in to start our climb towards the Arena Payout.
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What an amazing idea that would be, no logging in at 545AM when my alarm goes off to quick check the store before jumping in the shower.
No logging back in at 615AM after showering as I'm getting dressed to check the store again after the it has refreshed & to spend my overnight energy.
No getting too distracted with that rush of energy burns & leave the house late to now be late to work.
(Admit it, I'm not the only one that has done this)
No logging in at Noon-2PM range to claim my triple refresh & check the stores again while trying to work.
No logging in at 5PM to start the PVP climb in the middle of commute home.
No logging back in at 9PM for the final energy grab.
Imagine the joy at being able to set your payout to be when you have 2 free hours & then being able to claim all your daily free energy. And yet not having to still be awake for that final energy grab.
Doing all your shopping as you do 4 refreshes at once for free instead of having to check stores 5x a day.
Knock out all 24 hours of energy burns in between your PVP fights.
Knock out all your "Mythic/Omega/Assault battles" between your 2nd hour of Fleet Fights on cooldown.
What an amazing concept, to be able to do the entire day's work of "stuff" in a 2 hour stretch when your already on doing PVP/Fleet & NOT have to log in the other 5x a day for all the the other crap.
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The inability to do the above, is why I hate the game now & why I have basically stopped giving them any money.
I just no longer care about progressing fast because I no longer find any joy in having my schedule dictated to me to stay competitive.
And really, the above changes, to me, seem pretty easy to code, they just slightly alter what already exists.
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