It's time to balance Baze/Chirrut

"scuba;c-1058556" wrote:

"Nikoms565;c-1058289" wrote:

"Carth_Onassi1973;c-1058223" wrote:
Respectfully disagree on the Chaze nerf/balance.

By themselves, they're cannon fodder. They need to be together to have the synergy to make them great. Sorta like wiggs. And droids. And zaul.

Okay, first, let me say two things:

1) As a general rule, I am opposed to nerfs of any kind. I think they unfairly punish paying customers - and those that "paid" with time and gear.

2) I have no dog in this fight. I can beat Chaze teams and finish #1 arena if I am available around my payout time (that's a different discussion)

Those two things said, I DO think Chaze need to be "balanced". Anyone suggesting that they are not OP to some degree either hasn't played against/with 7* versions at max gear or is simply trying to defend their team. When paired together they do almost everything that they do better than any other character that does them. A tank with an AoE debuff that also calls a strong attacker to assist. An attacker that not only hits like a truck but cleanses and heals - and calls the tank to assist. Both of their basics also have abilities attached to them. Oh, and they both counter most of the time - with those basics.

Now, the above would be a sufficient reason to take a close look at them for rebalancing - but the things that makes it almost a no-brainer are:

1) They can function on virtually any team (unlike Droids or Zaul or even Wiggs - who generally need Wedge in the lead to maximize their effectiveness).

2) They have no direct counter.

3) They are labelled as Rebels - already one of the strongest factions in the game.

They tried to make a direct counter. They just forgot to give Deathtrooper some good stats to go with his kit.

I would also add that you can say the first two things about Nihilus (who has roughly double the usage of Baze or Chirrut on the Meta report), but everyone got him for free so we don't see 80 different nerf threads around...

As for the rebels argument, Rebels are only still relevant because of R1 and Chaze (and now R2). When was the last time you saw Wiggs near the top of a mature server? Nerf Chaze utility and you wind up with yet another faction with loads of important characters that can't compete.