It's time to balance Baze/Chirrut

"Riktoven;c-1058697" wrote:
Chirrut jeals more than every healer in the game, despite being an attacker.

False. His HoT's have the lowest value in the game and can be dispelled as well as heal blocked. Barris is a far better healer (and has an auto cleanse that can't be prevented even if she's stunned!)

"Riktoven;c-1058697" wrote:
Chirrut hits harder than most attackers.

Check .GG. Plenty of attackers that have higher phys. power or max damage. Cad Bane(!) does higher basic damage than Chirrut.

"Riktoven;c-1058697" wrote:
Chirrut's base stats are all top or near the top of the attacker class.

TFP is significantly faster, and his basic hits harder, and he's a direct counter to Chaze, imagine that.

"Riktoven;c-1058697" wrote:
Baze base stats are all top or near top for a tank.

You can say the same about K2, Shore, SiT, and the General... You should really check out .gg

"Riktoven;c-1058697" wrote:
Baze's numerous abilities, starting taunt, aoe dispel, counters, even more self healing from his ambiguously gay partner, are all awesome abilities that should not exist together on one toon in a game. At least not any game that wants to at least pretend it gives a damn about balance.

You can objectively compare every detail of chirrut to every other attacker and healer and see there is no sane reason to consider any of the others if chirrut is available to you. This is simply a numbers comparison. Same comparimg Baze to any other tank. Aside from a few synergy forced decisions, there is no reason to choose any tank over baze.

If all this were true the meta report would reflect it. But it doesn't. These two are highly utilized, but their numbers are nearly identical, which indicates they're almost never used separately (if chirrut is the best healer and the best attacker why is he only used in conjunction with Baze? He should see usage otherwisee if you were correct). Additionally Nihilus is used nearly twice as frequently, and the General and Rex are both used more than these two as well...

"Riktoven;c-1058697" wrote:
Again, this is numbers, not feelz.

You presented no numbers, all your allusions to numbers were wrong, and you wrote two paragraphs that were completely subjective about how the characters feel... but ok.

"Riktoven;c-1058697" wrote:
There simply is no way these two aren't OP individually, let alome when the multiple synergies kick in. Anything less is an intellectually diahonest assessment of their capabilities.

I feel like trying to make arguments that don't actually jive with the numbers you are referencing is intelectually dishonest, but maybe that's just me...