It's time to balance Baze/Chirrut

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

"Riktoven;c-1058697" wrote:
Again, this is numbers, not feelz.

"Riktoven;c-1058747" wrote:
lets ignore stats, and focus on kit.

Seems legit.

"Riktoven;c-1058747" wrote:
Is there any reason to use any other tank than Baze?

Again, General Kenobi's usage outstrips Baze, despite the fact that he's more difficult to obtain..

"Riktoven;c-1058747" wrote:
I will make fun of the ambiguously gay duo wherever I like, so unless you own these forums, ****.

I'd imagine the mods would have something to say about that. Take your phobia's elsewhere.

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

Pipe down, you are clearly showing your arrogance here. The counters argument that you keep being given is given to you for a reason. It's actually how you play the game. Players like you that whine about a toon or combo of toons will whine until the game dies. Players like me and the people that give you the counters argument actually know how to play the game and what it actually requires to fix certain toons. In the case of Chaze, there isn't any necessary changes that need to be made to them because we have so many other toons that are far more accessible than them that counter them effortlessly. Case and point Boba Fett. His entire kit hard counters Chaze and that's only 1 toon in your squad versus their 2. By the numbers that already puts you at a 5v3 advantage in arena battles.

Alright, for all the people talking about how no one ever would use another tank. I run First Order and I have Chaze, and guess what? I don't use Chaze on my FO squad. FO Stormtrooper is way better, because it's full squad synergy.

I've said it time and again, it's impossible to take nerf threads seriously when there is so much hyperbole being thrown around.

And no, I don't own the forum, but I'm pretty sure slurs aren't welcome here. Keep pushing it and see what happens.

"JediGhost117;c-1058743" wrote:

"xReDeMpx;c-1058711" wrote:
Another thread where people don't understand that because a team or pair of toons are beatable or have counters don't mean they are balanced.

The lack of comprehension here is astounding

Looking in a mirror buddy? They are balanced when you take into consideration that plethora of other toons that can counter everything that Chaze brings to the table. You only need Boba Fett in order to beat them realistically

O lawd u again

"xReDeMpx;c-1058781" wrote:

"JediGhost117;c-1058743" wrote:

"xReDeMpx;c-1058711" wrote:
Another thread where people don't understand that because a team or pair of toons are beatable or have counters don't mean they are balanced.

The lack of comprehension here is astounding

Looking in a mirror buddy? They are balanced when you take into consideration that plethora of other toons that can counter everything that Chaze brings to the table. You only need Boba Fett in order to beat them realistically

O lawd u again

Funny how I keep popping up when you say something dumb.

For the rabid defenders, you still understand that they are overturned, just will not admit to it. Since everyone complains about them, the majority of people in the game, regardless if you think they are fine or not, there is a problem.

Addressing it is probably not going to happen in the form of a nerf, but a power creep of even worse then these 2 will be the counter. Which would everyone prefer? Something greater then the two of these together? Or just sticking to them at the top and dealing with it? If enough people would run specific teams to counter them, eventually they would lose popularity. I think more counter chaze teams are the better answer to getting balance in arena then a power creep of something even worse that would negate them.

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

Same could be said for the other side.
Nerf, Nerf, Nerf. Like its your motto.

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:
With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

Yup, everyone has already forgotten Nihilus, Kenobi, and Sith Assassin... Oh.. wait.... they're in the top ten meta usage... R2's already pushing 10% usage and only a handful of people are capable of gearing him at this point...

"JediGhost117;c-1058774" wrote:
The counters argument that you keep being given is given to you for a reason. It's actually how you play the game.

This.

"MayAddy622;c-1058791" wrote:
For the rabid defenders, you still understand that they are overturned, just will not admit to it. Since everyone complains about them, the majority of people in the game, regardless if you think they are fine or not, there is a problem.

Ah, the classic "I think there's a problem and some people agree with me, so everyone obviously agrees"

Here's where I sat yesterday when I finished my PvP's with R1
http://i.imgur.com/ThvXUFT.png

And here's what I woke up to this morning...
http://i.imgur.com/36xwLYu.png

People seem to be countering my Chaze just fine...

This seems like a you problem that you're trying to make a we problem.

"JediGhost117;c-1058774" wrote:

"Gamorrean;c-1058762" wrote:

"Dooku_for_days;c-1057982" wrote:
Is chaze very good? Yes. Are they unbeatable? Like anything in this game, far from it. They have many effective, F2P counters. To name a few: boba, nihilus, death trooper and anyone with a stun. I feel the people who make these threads believe chaze aren't F2P, which of course, they are. You can farm baze in shipments alongside his hard node and you'll unlock him pretty quickly depending on your crystal income.

Why is it guys like you don't get the point? Counters, counters, counters.. Like its your motto.. They do freaking too much? With Chaze in the game like they are, most of the new characters are gonna be wasted and forgotten.

A simple question I wanna ask about: Is there any character in game that makes you wanna switch out a maxed chaze? No, because those so called counters are bad on defence and chaze just Relax in a corner. They are the must lame and easy charcters to use in the game and FULL TEAM SYNERGIES should be more powerfull.. Which is why zMaul teams without chaze are not OP, they are great but still not an easy win..

Pipe down, you are clearly showing your arrogance here. The counters argument that you keep being given is given to you for a reason. It's actually how you play the game. Players like you that whine about a toon or combo of toons will whine until the game dies. Players like me and the people that give you the counters argument actually know how to play the game and what it actually requires to fix certain toons. In the case of Chaze, there isn't any necessary changes that need to be made to them because we have so many other toons that are far more accessible than them that counter them effortlessly. Case and point Boba Fett. His entire kit hard counters Chaze and that's only 1 toon in your squad versus their 2. By the numbers that already puts you at a 5v3 advantage in arena battles.

A single counter toon can't win against chaze+3 other meta toon so easily, and if you go full counter chaze team you Lose.
I have Boba I do win over Them (But not as easy as you make it Sound)
They still do too much and would you really want to se a chaze 2.0?
And why feel the need to start talking about arrogance?