I along with many others are very excited about the (working) Bastilla leveling the playing field against the sith. We've all had to deal with the sith being op against the jedi for so long. I was very stoked for Jolee Bindo as he is one of my favorite jedi of all time. I was ready to invest in this character until I found out his healing ability was worded specifically so it wouldn't have synergy with kenobi's lead. I know I'm not alone when saying this was really dissapointing. I have since been holding off on investing in this character. I dont understand why they would do this? I want to hear If someone has an explanation for this. It would make the character so much more fun to use. If you feel the same way please comment or hit the like button so we can hopefully get this changed.

How can they do this? How can one be a healer and not be granted ability to trigger mass assist?

I'm not as concerned about Jolee and GK's lead, myself. It is an annoyance, but not as big a deal as the other issue between Jolee and GK...Jolee's zeta, which revives defeated Jedi, grants them Crit Immunity for 5 turns. Crit Immunity means they can't be crit, obviously. With nobody getting crit, GK can't taunt. GK is a tank, and you want/need him to be taunting! Moreover, with nobody getting crit, Barriss' zeta won't work. So Jolee's zeta means that GK and Barriss don't work as you need them to. That is a much bigger issue than the issue of Jolee's heal not triggering the mass assist, IMO (although I do agree that if the team is all Jedi, and the whole team is healed, then it IS a team heal, and it should trigger a mass assist)But really, say for example GMY is revived from Jolee's zeta (this is a zeta we are talking about here!), with only 80% health and crit immunity. GMY will be focussed down, while GK is standing there incapable of protecting him. So the revive, and the zeta, was wasted. Much bigger issue, IMO.That said, making points like these in the forums yields nothing, so @Ninjah9, nothing will come of it (except the standard same few people that will come in to defend whatever CG does)

You are completely correct that Bindu's heal won't trigger it.The reason is that it's not a team heal!It heals one ally, and then all other Jedi.I don't think it's deliberately designed not to trigger GK's Leader Ability.The wording indicates that the mechanic is simply not fitting the necessary parameters.Now I also understand why HYoda's Basic doesn't trigger the mass attack: It leaves out HYoda himself. :)

"Caiaphas;c-1601366" wrote:I'm not as concerned about Jolee and GK's lead, myself. It is an annoyance, but not as big a deal as the other issue between Jolee and GK...Jolee's zeta, which revives defeated Jedi, grants them Crit Immunity for 5 turns. Crit Immunity means they can't be crit, obviously. With nobody getting crit, GK can't taunt. GK is a tank, and you want/need him to be taunting! Moreover, with nobody getting crit, Barriss' zeta won't work. So Jolee's zeta means that GK and Barriss don't work as you need them to. That is a much bigger issue than the issue of Jolee's heal not triggering the mass assist, IMO (although I do agree that if the team is all Jedi, and the whole team is healed, then it IS a team heal, and it should trigger a mass assist)But really, say for example GMY is revived from Jolee's zeta (this is a zeta we are talking about here!), with only 80% health and crit immunity. GMY will be focussed down, while GK is standing there incapable of protecting him. So the revive, and the zeta, was wasted. Much bigger issue, IMO.That said, making points like these in the forums yields nothing, so @Ninjah9, nothing will come of it (except the standard same few people that will come in to defend whatever CG does)If Yoda gets focused down, that means Yoda is taking multiple hits to go down.That's better than if he didn't have crit immunity, and got dropped again in one good crit, or a crit and an AoE.You probably don't want the person you just rez'd to eat a crit before you have the chance to help them recover.Also, you're unlikely to be reviving your entire team in one go. If you are, you're in Hail Mary territory anyways.The most likely person to be rez'd is probably Kenobi himself, as he is the tank and he's supposed to take the beating, so crit immunity will help him stick around.There are two sides to the crit immunity. It isn't outright bad with General Kenobi, and if you really don't like it, just use Old Ben instead."SoylentGreen;c-1601403" wrote:Now I also understand why HYoda's Basic doesn't trigger the mass attack: It leaves out HYoda himself. :)Even if it did affect Yoda, it wouldn't trigger Kenobi lead because the mass assist is triggered by team healing specials. Not basics.

@SoylentGreen: That's actually not correct, hyoda's "team heal" is his basic. The description requires that it has to be a special ability which "eh, you do it" is. Otherwise Bariss's basic would trigger the swarm too. Also the explanation given was that because it only targets jedi it doest count as a team heal. Which is pretty silly.

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shonkathonk
7 years ago
Does every toon have to work with every other toon in the faction? I would say no, especially in one as large as jedi. Never saw anyone complaining like mad when savages zeta didnt work with a nihilus lead. Its exactly the same thing. You have to make a choice of who you want in your team and use them.as effectively aa possible.
chrlo999
7 years ago
Make 2 teams.
He’s much better with old Ben anyway.
ninjah9
7 years ago
@SoylentGreen: they claim because his ability only heals jedi that it's not a true team heal and therefore doesnt trigger the kenobi swarm ability.

@Shonkathonk: I'm not saying everybody has to have synergy with everyone. Nobody complained about savage and nihilus because the sith are already stacked as far as OP abilities. We've been so conditioned to accept how op the sith are compared to the jedi that there are literally people freaking out because the jedi got a tenacity boost??? The jedi have only slightly been able to hold their ground because of team synergy. After having to deal with how op the sith were over the jedi for so long, and then finally getting one of my favorite characters and having them specifically nerf his synergy with kenobi (one of the very few reasons to even have a healer at higher levels) was just too annoying to ignore. It makes me want to completely pass on investing in this character and it should be fixed. There's just no legitimate reason to take it away, especially when he is a jedi healer that heals the whole team (if all are jedi) precisely what the kenobi lead requires have the swarm effect.
shonkathonk
7 years ago
@Ninjah9 when nihilus came out it was definitely not a sith meta at that point but I will agree that jedi at that point did suck. You say nerf the synergy but how can they nerf something before it existed? As other people have said its not really a mass heal. I expect the programming goes something along the lines of check char status: if jedi heal, then repeats not heal all. It may display the same to us but is very different
thryk27
7 years ago
So I think this failure for synergy was planned. Look here:

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/175343/content-update-7-11-2018#latest

Specifically, 3/4 of the way down:
"A NOTE ABOUT JOLEE’S SPECIAL
Because Jolee's "Eh, You Do It" ability is not always a full-team heal--it only affects Jedi allies-- as such it does not interact with the Assist-call effect on General Kenobi's Leader Ability. Since the target restriction on Jolee's healing effect is somewhat uncommon, and we anticipate that many players will use him alongside General Kenobi, we felt that it was important to clarify this interaction up-front to minimize confusion."
ninjah9
7 years ago
Btw off topic for a second does anyone know how you get to the "Characters" discussion thread. My discussions keep getting moved here and I can't find this section?
Jtyler7228
New Spectator
7 years ago
"Ninjah9;c-1601783" wrote:
Btw off topic for a second does anyone know how you get to the "Characters" discussion thread. My discussions keep getting moved here and I can't find this section?

Feedback, then Characters
ninjah9
7 years ago
Thanks, talked to a moderator seems like they want to move it there. Had a hard time finding it

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