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7 years ago

Jolee Bindo - Kenobi synergy

I along with many others are very excited about the (working) Bastilla leveling the playing field against the sith. We've all had to deal with the sith being op against the jedi for so long. I was very stoked for Jolee Bindo as he is one of my favorite jedi of all time. I was ready to invest in this character until I found out his healing ability was worded specifically so it wouldn't have synergy with kenobi's lead. I know I'm not alone when saying this was really dissapointing. I have since been holding off on investing in this character. I dont understand why they would do this? I want to hear If someone has an explanation for this. It would make the character so much more fun to use. If you feel the same way please comment or hit the like button so we can hopefully get this changed.

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  • @SoylentGreen: That's actually not correct, hyoda's "team heal" is his basic. The description requires that it has to be a special ability which "eh, you do it" is. Otherwise Bariss's basic would trigger the swarm too. Also the explanation given was that because it only targets jedi it doest count as a team heal. Which is pretty silly.
  • "VonZant;c-1601356" wrote:
    There are other Jedi tanks.


    The only real Jedi Tank’s currently in the game are General Kenobi/Old Ben and Kanan Jarrus.

    The only popular Jedi that even fit the role of a Tank are: Obi Wan Kenobi, Kanan Jarrus, Ki Adi Mundi (not in game yet), Plo Koon (who needs a rework), Cin Drallig (not in game yet), and Ima-Gun-Di (who is tagged Support when he should have been made a Tank).

    There are more heroes who fit the role but aren’t quite as popular as the ones I listed above. Some of the coolest from the Old Republic era are Jedi Master Ven Zallow and Jedi Battlemaster Kao Cen Darach. Kao Cen Darach was an absolute beast Jedi Tank lol. He held off both Darth Malgus and Darth Vindican, allowing his apprentice Satele Shan and others to escape so they could warn the republic about the return of the Sith.

    You could make an argument that Kit Fisto should be a Tank instead of an Attacker because of his mastery with the Shii-Cho form that excelled at repelling multiple attackers.

    Mace Windu should not be a Tank and should be an Attacker because of his very aggressive, dark form of lightsaber combat, Vaapad. I really don’t know why he was made a Tank. Heck, he failed at protecting Saesee Tiin, Kit Fisto, and Agen Kolar in their attempt to subdue Palpatine. Does that sound like a Tank? No lol. In fact, where he succeeded was in utilizing his Vaapad form which drew on the dark essence of both Palpatine and his own inner darkness to disarm Palpatine. He was even going to finish Palpatine off which led to Anakin doing what he did. Mace is clearly an Attacker.

    Anakin Skywalker was known to be very aggressive but he was also very protective of those he loved/cared for and would get angered when someone/something was going to hurt them. His unwavering love for the ones he cared about is ultimately what led to his fall to the dark side. He fits the role of an aggressive Tank much better than Mace Windu does if you really examine the characters.

    Now you can also make the argument that all Jedi are “Tanks” in a sense because they protect others, but that’s just looking at Jedi in a very broad sense. When you really examine the characters, certain ones fit the roles of Tank, Support, Attacker, and Healer better than just calling them all “Tanks”.

    Getting back to topic, Jolee’s healing should absolutely trigger Kenobi’s mass assist when there is a Jedi team present. That’s the whole point of team synergy lol. If the synergy seems to be too much, CG could always word Jolee’s healing ability to say: “any damage dealt by allies during Jolee’s turn upon activating this ability is reduced by (X%)” then balance the damage reduction to something more reasonable.
  • @Ninjah9 when nihilus came out it was definitely not a sith meta at that point but I will agree that jedi at that point did suck. You say nerf the synergy but how can they nerf something before it existed? As other people have said its not really a mass heal. I expect the programming goes something along the lines of check char status: if jedi heal, then repeats not heal all. It may display the same to us but is very different
  • So I think this failure for synergy was planned. Look here:

    https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/175343/content-update-7-11-2018#latest

    Specifically, 3/4 of the way down:
    "A NOTE ABOUT JOLEE’S SPECIAL
    Because Jolee's "Eh, You Do It" ability is not always a full-team heal--it only affects Jedi allies-- as such it does not interact with the Assist-call effect on General Kenobi's Leader Ability. Since the target restriction on Jolee's healing effect is somewhat uncommon, and we anticipate that many players will use him alongside General Kenobi, we felt that it was important to clarify this interaction up-front to minimize confusion."
  • @Shonkathonk: Nerf was the wrong term to use. To be as clear as possible I along with many others are extremely annoyed that they would get cute with the language of his "jedi team heal" (specific kenobi synergy requirement) so it specifically wouldn't work with kenobi's ability. Why not just let it be what it is (a jedi team heal) and let it trigger the swarm attack. @Arbitrator made a few good points and that is the jedi for the most part have been poorly developed compared to the sith. Its it's not like the jedi are so op that giving Jolee synergy with kenobi would just shatter the game. To me it's one of the few abilities that made the jedi semi viable in the past, and now they just arbitrarily take it away!? Just doesn't make sense and is really disappointing.
  • Btw off topic for a second does anyone know how you get to the "Characters" discussion thread. My discussions keep getting moved here and I can't find this section?
  • "Ninjah9;c-1601783" wrote:
    Btw off topic for a second does anyone know how you get to the "Characters" discussion thread. My discussions keep getting moved here and I can't find this section?


    Feedback, then Characters
  • Thanks, talked to a moderator seems like they want to move it there. Had a hard time finding it

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