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- You know what small thing really bothered me in this on vader vs kenobi.
So kenobi wins... and leaves (lol kill him fool, nope thats not it). He gets in his ship and flies up.... WHERE IS VADER'S STAR DESTROYER?!?!?!
Did Grand inq get mad vader told him screw you we chase kenobi and leave vader?
Vader said hed go down alone, not leave the system and return to chasing the insurgents..
So why didnt they see kenobi and tractor beem him.
Honestly why didnt vader do that to start with on either ship he chased? "Ltswb1;c-2368627" wrote:
Besides the decent Vader/Kenobi fight, the rest was a convoluted mess.
3rd sister gets a ship and gets to Tattoine before the other two ships even leave the original system. All with a hole in her gut. To kill Luke. Why? I don’t get her motivation. And what was so dire that she couldn’t take time to heal?
They should have started with the vader chase scene then cut to tatooine and show her. They just wanted a soft opening, too bad its a logic gap to show it that way without putting the words "earlier" on the screen.Vader - increase fire power!
Wait, what does that do exactly? Is that like turning the amp up to 11? Do the blasts get stronger? Or do they just shoot more of them? It seems like a confusing order. Maybe he should tell them to aim better instead.
Hahaha +10. Commander, aim before you fire. Yes lord vader.
That said it does show an increase in blast when he says the order... so i think they flipped the turbo button on the controller.The return of the slow speed space chase. Who thought that was a good idea? Want to avoid getting shot out of the sky by 100 turbo lasers? Just wiggle a little bit. That’s exciting to watch and very believable. If only Star Destroyers carried battalions of really fast attack ships. What a shame. Now we have to choose between chasing Obi Wan or the rebels because we only have one ship. Oh, wait Vader has a ship too. Not his normal one with weapons though. But we should still let the rebels go because reasons.
Was wondering that too. Atleast they didnt say it was fuel related.Here’s Tala’s holster as a gift. It survived a thermal detonator going off within a foot of it without a scratch, burn, or blood splatter.
I assumed this was from inside the base... aka one she didnt use.Vader - And that is why you will always lose…..
Bit of revisionist history there. I would think having your limbs cut off and being turned into a s’more would be kinda memorable to him.
I assumed he meant the jedi in general. Cool scene thoughHow many times are they going to leave someone almost dead? Just in this series we have GI, Reva, Vader, and Kenobi all left for dead, when making sure they were really dead would have been very easy. You would think they’d eventually learn from their mistakes.
Vader gets a pass, hes shown to be overconfident.
Luke into the carbonite chamber... all to easy... oh dang he knows how to force jump.Space travel in Ep4 took days to travel between planets. Now getting to your ship, leaving orbit, escaping the gravity well, traveling through hyperspace, entering orbit, decelerating through the atmosphere and landing takes roughly 10-15 minutes. It takes me longer to get to the grocery store than it takes them to change planets. It’s gotten ridiculous.
Yep. I blame prequils for that though. Padme goes from inner rim planet to mustafar in so short a time... but hey atleast they had a cool fight seen after sooo....And we get another revisited mistake from the sequels. Leia runs past Chewbacca to hug Rey. The forums get up in arms about it. So let’s do it again and have her run past Kenobi to her droid. What a weird thing to do. I know her droid is important to her, but it could have been filmed better so that it didn’t take away from her reunion with Kenobi. Just hide the droid until after she greets him.
Ehhh this one i can look past, shes 10. The chewy one was dumb because chewy just lost han, leia just lost han.... hug rey who just met han. 1+1=oranges?Ben’s “cave” with the giant hole in the side doesn’t look very useful. Especially on a planet with sand storms. I know that’s a small thing, but it’s bugged me the whole show.
Has a hole on both sides... get that nice cross breeze.Where the heck are C-3PO and R2?? If you’re going to do fan service, do it right. ? All of the movies are really about them after all.
Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!"Ltswb1;c-2368627" wrote:
Space travel in Ep4 took days to travel between planets. Now getting to your ship, leaving orbit, escaping the gravity well, traveling through hyperspace, entering orbit, decelerating through the atmosphere and landing takes roughly 10-15 minutes. It takes me longer to get to the grocery store than it takes them to change planets. It’s gotten ridiculous.
In ANH Han comes out of the cockpit to say that they've outran the Imperials, sits down to watch Luke train with the lightsaber, and then 5 minutes later says they're coming up on Alderaan. Doesn't really seem like it took days to me, unless Han spent days in that cockpit not interacting with Luke and Ben- Liked it..
Epic fight..
Nice touch with QGJ at the end.. and made us wait for it and it paid off.
And that's why Leia says "May the Force be with You"
Episode 1, We see Obi-Wan lost, adrift, only purpose is to be holding on to protect the Boy.
Final shot, Obi-Wan has started his journey, again leaning from his old Master... - NotRealUltraSeasoned NewcomerHad no issues with any part of the episode
I liked the episode picking off where the ship didn't run away to safety and the star destroyer is chasing them
Cool battle
Nice to see Obi-Wan didn't make it in time before Reva tried killing Luke (but chose not to)
I knew they were going to show that Obi-Wan is able to talk to Qui-Gon at the end of the series, it was still nice "Ltswb1;c-2368677" wrote:
"Nothingface;c-2368651" wrote:
So the Inquisitors just vanished after this with no explanation of what happened to them or Reiba??
The inquisitors appear in Rebels, which happens after this show. And some, if not all die in that show.
Vader killed a few before they moved to the base you saw too...
So my guess would be in the 9 years between this show ANH, vader disbands the rest personally- MasterSeedyRising Ace@FerociousPanda
In the official, approved, and canonical novelization travel from Tatooine to Alderaan does take multiple days.
There has always been way too much handwaving with these things in video formats to have people be where they needed to be at the time they needed to be there, but in this case the answer isn't making the jump take 5 minutes. In this case it's all about 2 things:
Kenobi started from the same planet as Reva/3rdSis.
Kenobi traveled to Tatooine, with some time out for a sub-light chase and a lightsaber duel.
Reva traveled to Tatooine with some time out for emergency first aid and commandeering an appropriate ship.
Reva's time to get herself stabilized and grab a ship was slightly less time than Kenobi spent on the chase & duel.
To have the space travel take the appropriate amount of time, they only needed to give Kenobi the vision after he was already in space flying homeward, because whatever time it took for Kenobi to fly to Tatooine would have been approximately the same amount of time it took Reva. BUT...
...that assumes that Kenobi was seeing the present.
If Kenobi was seeing the future, then even if the journey to Tatooine took weeks, it would still all work out just fine b/c it would also take Reva weeks.
TLDR: space travel between planets took days, this was true from the beginning with the trip from Tatooine to Alderaan, some directors have been too casual with this, but this race between Reva & Kenobi isn't such a case. - For those discussing distance and time it takes to get from that moon near jabiim to tatooine... check the star maps below
Here is jabiim in relation to mon cala and lothal:
And here is Tatooine "Ltswb1;c-2368762" wrote:
"ShaggyB;c-2368748" wrote:
Well ive watched it a few times... and it appears 3rd sister was never directly seen by luke.
He does see a hooded figure, he sees a red light behind him in the distance and he doesnt look back while climbing the ladder, so red light in the room.
So that just leaves Leia as the broken continuity.
She now has far too much of a personal cinnection to Kenobi to not mention it in her R2 message to him. She should be much more hurt that he dies on the deathstar.
Show acomplished a great deal of progress with making kenobi and vaders interactions and lines make sense. It even fixed return of the jedi luke and vader scene.... but it broke one of the most famous plot points in movie history.
Not to mention Vader knows his inquisitors drew kenobi out by kidnapping leia.... why would he not do that again? Why would he not investigate that connection more?
Why would Leia attempt to hide the connection in her R2 message when Vader already knows and the more critical information of rebels on alderaan, kenobi on tatooine and death star plans in R2 are called out?
My impression is that he may not know how Reva lured Kenobi to her. Do we have any proof that Vader knew it was Bale’s daughter that Reva was using? She hatched that plan on her own, and I don’t remember Vader being in the same room as Leia or being told it was her. I think it’s possible that he didn’t know. Not likely, but possible.
Grand inquistor and the other inquisitors know in episode 2.
Why would Vader not know? Why would they not keep a record of who was being imprisoined in the fotress? Why would Vader not ask after the fact if he wasnt aware?
He knows kenobi broke in to save someone, would he really not know or care who they had that drew him out?
They come very close to having oalps tell him to drop it at the end... that would have helped part of the problem the show creates, but they have the means to go after the organa family and they know kenobi will show to help them.
Its logical to think they can contact him, but at the very least that hes monitoring them
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