Let's not kid ourselves about dook

"lunarwolf;219640" wrote:
sorry but he is OP, the being able to kill him argument is valid for all toons

when you compare him to the vast amount of useless characters in this game he is completely OP. stop comparing him to QGJ, Rey etc... since they are all OP as well. instead compare him to jedi knight guardian, coruscant, mob enforcer, etc..

having a few OP characters just makes everyone use the same roster and dumbs down the game.

having all characters balanced will only make the game more fun because it will expand variety of teams being fielded and tactics, instead of continually fighting the same fights over and over again.

I don't feel he is OP in the same sense of the damage GS, FOTP etc can do. I don't believe anyone should be able to on hit KO any character...they did get dookus attack power right.
I just feel the potential volume of attacks (when considering the added abilities that go with them) is too high.
This is more of a response towards people saying he is a perfect toon in terms of balance. I think he would be much more balanced if he kept all of his abilities but didn't get the bonus attacks on a counter attack.

If all of those toons are "OP", maybe we should just nerf everyone and start having them slap fight instead. You are all entitled to your opinion, but seeing all the "so-and-so is OP" complaints is getting tiresome.

"lunarwolf;219640" wrote:
sorry but he is OP, the being able to kill him argument is valid for all toons

when you compare him to the vast amount of useless characters in this game he is completely OP. stop comparing him to QGJ, Rey etc... since they are all OP as well. instead compare him to jedi knight guardian, coruscant, mob enforcer, etc..

having a few OP characters just makes everyone use the same roster and dumbs down the game.

having all characters balanced will only make the game more fun because it will expand variety of teams being fielded and tactics, instead of continually fighting the same fights over and over again.

How many games like this have you played? In every game like this, there is always a top 10% that out perform the other 90%. A game with every single toon balanced will never happen, unless they only have 4 toons.

What some are you are saying is fix it to where dooku is not usable. Before you start saying no, no, no, if you took away dooku 100% counter and the bonus attacks thier would not be a reason to use him. He has weak dmg and low health. His counters and bonus attacks is why he is even used. Take them away and he would drop down to almost the bottom of the list.

Honestly your talking about nerfing him to where he is not even usable. His stun is only high chance against Jedi. A lot have ability block, and dooku hardly ever ability blocks.

Just because you don't know how to fight him does not mean be needs nerfed. I never even used dooku until now because his leader skill (oh let me guess that's also op), I see dookus on other teams that's the last toon I target. Just because you want to target him first and let his skills do what they are designed to do, doesn't mean he is op. Means you suck against him. Oh he gets bonus attacks with phasma. Well great, the team is designed for exactly that. Sorry your team suck and can't beat it.

The whole nerf everyone because I can't beat them is really getting old. Learn to play the game or just stop playing and move to another game. In 3 months this game has been out I have seen a couple good toons now get nerfed to almost unusable because of everyone crying because their team of jedis can't beat everything in game.

I dont need a team of Jedis to beat everything, i got GS ... :tongue: (j/k)

"Breetai;221196" wrote:

"lunarwolf;219640" wrote:
sorry but he is OP, the being able to kill him argument is valid for all toons

when you compare him to the vast amount of useless characters in this game he is completely OP. stop comparing him to QGJ, Rey etc... since they are all OP as well. instead compare him to jedi knight guardian, coruscant, mob enforcer, etc..

having a few OP characters just makes everyone use the same roster and dumbs down the game.

having all characters balanced will only make the game more fun because it will expand variety of teams being fielded and tactics, instead of continually fighting the same fights over and over again.

How many games like this have you played? In every game like this, there is always a top 10% that out perform the other 90%. A game with every single toon balanced will never happen, unless they only have 4 toons.

What some are you are saying is fix it to where dooku is not usable. Before you start saying no, no, no, if you took away dooku 100% counter and the bonus attacks thier would not be a reason to use him. He has weak dmg and low health. His counters and bonus attacks is why he is even used. Take them away and he would drop down to almost the bottom of the list.

Honestly your talking about nerfing him to where he is not even usable. His stun is only high chance against Jedi. A lot have ability block, and dooku hardly ever ability blocks.

Just because you don't know how to fight him does not mean be needs nerfed. I never even used dooku until now because his leader skill (oh let me guess that's also op), I see dookus on other teams that's the last toon I target. Just because you want to target him first and let his skills do what they are designed to do, doesn't mean he is op. Means you suck against him. Oh he gets bonus attacks with phasma. Well great, the team is designed for exactly that. Sorry your team suck and can't beat it.

The whole nerf everyone because I can't beat them is really getting old. Learn to play the game or just stop playing and move to another game. In 3 months this game has been out I have seen a couple good toons now get nerfed to almost unusable because of everyone crying because their team of jedis can't beat everything in game.

Your completely right. Doesn't even have anything to do with Jedi's, people simply don't know how to play against him right or don't have a very good team period. I run a full F2P Jedi team not even maxed out and have no issues with Dooku while also taking top 20 easy. Like you said, he gets left for last every time. There is a long list of character's that are targeted over him because they are way more of a threat. Rey, FOTP, GS, Leia, QGJ, PHasma, IG-86, IG-88, Yoda, RG, Poe, Lum.....ect

I said jedis because that's where most of these come from. I have seen alot of post saying so and so is op, and so and so should be buffed because I farmed jedis, who I like, and not what's good in game, because I think jedis should be all powerful because of the movies.

"Breetai;223291" wrote:
I said jedis because that's where most of these come from. I have seen alot of post saying so and so is op, and so and so should be buffed because I farmed jedis, who I like, and not what's good in game, because I think jedis should be all powerful because of the movies.

Sure ... ppl of course prefer iconic characters over generic fillers, so why not asking for make the iconic ones at least stronger than generics ...
However if you ask me, all generic characters should be nearly the same strong (any of its own way) and all iconic chars should be close to each others (also every one in its own way), but stilll a bit stronger than generics, but harder to get. I dislike situations like now, where you get forced to farm specific chars if you want to be successful, im sure, even the devs didnt want what it looks like right now. it just happened (bad/no beta testing). if devs would want us to use all the same chars, they would just remove 70 chars so that there are the 6 "meta" chars left only ...

"Breetai;223291" wrote:
I said jedis because that's where most of these come from. I have seen alot of post saying so and so is op, and so and so should be buffed because I farmed jedis, who I like, and not what's good in game, because I think jedis should be all powerful because of the movies.

Yeah I even tho I would like to see some Jedi's become usable like Plo Koon and Mace I'm not wanting Jedi to be all powerful. Of coarse there should be competition between all faction's in the game. Example: The Sith have anti-jedi abilities and in return the Jedi got Yoda to negate most of them. Clearly there are a lot worse off character's than Plo and Mace in the current game roster's. Fingers cross that with fortitude and the new damage scaling this will bring a lot more character's out of the shadows.

@BentWookiee can you close this thread please

"Lightwalker;318635" wrote:
@BentWookiee can you close this thread please

Sure.. Thread closed at request of OP.