According to the post from the 22nd of August, CG was saying:Hello Holotable Heroes,Based on Leviathan’s matchups with Chimaera and Profundity, the team has investigated and has found potential locations we’ll be adjusting to bring Leviathan more in line with our core vision of how the ship should interact with other Capital ships.Once we’ve settled on the changes, we will make another post describing those adjustments.Thank you again to everyone who reached out.Well, the buffs today made the Profundity matchup more difficult. If it is enough, that is hard to say. What it didn't do was change anything at all about the Chimera fight. You can still, quite easily, beat Leviathan with Chimera. It honestly isn't even close.So CG, if you really want to adjust the "core vision" of Leviathan to be the top of the hill, you are not done yet.

I don't read anything there that says "leviathan will be unbeatable by any fleet except mirrors"Maybe they decide the interaction with chimera is fine.

Id rather have off meta counters than no counter at all. No thank you

"I_JnK_I;c-2438769" wrote:Id rather have off meta counters than no counter at all. No thank you A mirror is still a counter.

You’re conveniently ignoring the fact that it requires not one, but TWO conquest ships to achieve. So no it’s not a “three generations ago meta” because those two ships didn’t even exist then.

"WookieWookie;c-2438868" wrote:I'm going to agree with OP and while I don't mind low win % counters from a one-generation ago meta, this is almost a 100% counter from a three generations ago meta (Levi==>Prof/Exec==>Nego/Malev==>Chim/H1+Falcon), and is almost certainly more deserving of a 'fix' than a one-generation old counter. This would be like JMK getting beat by GAS. (and they nerfed GAS against GLs before the release of the second gen of GLs).This counter needs Scythe to work. Of course they didn't do anything about it because it gives them more chances to "sell" their "beloved" Inquisitors and the ship.

Leviathan buff didn't change the Chimera fight

scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
2 years ago
I don't read anything there that says "leviathan will be unbeatable by any fleet except mirrors"
Maybe they decide the interaction with chimera is fine.
0bigk4z8gw1c
2 years ago
Id rather have off meta counters than no counter at all. No thank you
tvsfrink
2 years ago
"I_JnK_I;c-2438769" wrote:
Id rather have off meta counters than no counter at all. No thank you

A mirror is still a counter.
KDC99-X
New Rookie
2 years ago
You’re conveniently ignoring the fact that it requires not one, but TWO conquest ships to achieve. So no it’s not a “three generations ago meta” because those two ships didn’t even exist then.
St4rlace
2 years ago
"WookieWookie;c-2438868" wrote:
I'm going to agree with OP and while I don't mind low win % counters from a one-generation ago meta, this is almost a 100% counter from a three generations ago meta (Levi==>Prof/Exec==>Nego/Malev==>Chim/H1+Falcon), and is almost certainly more deserving of a 'fix' than a one-generation old counter. This would be like JMK getting beat by GAS. (and they nerfed GAS against GLs before the release of the second gen of GLs).

This counter needs Scythe to work. Of course they didn't do anything about it because it gives them more chances to "sell" their "beloved" Inquisitors and the ship.
Knewonce
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
3 of the 5 ships you need to beat Levi have come out in the past 18 months, and using them gives up a Prof and a Exec counter. This is clearly a one generation ago counter. I’m with you that it probably shouldn’t be as reliable as it is, but the three generations ago argument is red herring.

"WookieWookie;c-2438868" wrote:
I'm going to agree with OP and while I don't mind low win % counters from a one-generation ago meta, this is almost a 100% counter from a three generations ago meta (Levi==>Prof/Exec==>Nego/Malev==>Chim/H1+Falcon), and is almost certainly more deserving of a 'fix' than a one-generation old counter. This would be like JMK getting beat by GAS. (and they nerfed GAS against GLs before the release of the second gen of GLs).
Knewonce
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
JML doesn’t cost 25k crystals to get to 7* and make him useable and Chimera requires no Omis. I’m okay with Chimera being a solid counter, I just think it should have a bit more RNG or at least more pilot investment if it’s going to win 90%+ of the time. Even with an R3 Iden, I’ve lost once in over a dozen matches.

"Itsa_me_Malario;c-2438926" wrote:
"Dawnsinger;c-2438911" wrote:
3 of the 5 ships you need to beat Levi have come out in the past 18 months, and using them gives up a Prof and a Exec counter. This is clearly a one generation ago counter. I’m with you that it probably shouldn’t be as reliable as it is, but the three generations ago argument is red herring.

"WookieWookie;c-2438868" wrote:
I'm going to agree with OP and while I don't mind low win % counters from a one-generation ago meta, this is almost a 100% counter from a three generations ago meta (Levi==>Prof/Exec==>Nego/Malev==>Chim/H1+Falcon), and is almost certainly more deserving of a 'fix' than a one-generation old counter. This would be like JMK getting beat by GAS. (and they nerfed GAS against GLs before the release of the second gen of GLs).

2 out of the 5 ships needed are straight out of the conquest, if that is a problem, than malgus needs to be nerfed because it kills JML, same with any conquest unit that can beat galactic legend
Knewonce
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
Executor never reliably killed Levi, Profundity still does.
notthatguybefor
2 years ago
"KDC99X;c-2438965" wrote:
I’m probably the exception, but I fall into that category ?

Here too
Crispy508
New Scout
2 years ago
"Notthatguyfrombefore;c-2438967" wrote:
"KDC99X;c-2438965" wrote:
I’m probably the exception, but I fall into that category ?

Here too

Same here lol