Mary Sue and her 12k hits

"Aero;428292" wrote:
Because no other character requires such attention.

"If you don't stun or debuff Ugnaught first that's your fault" said nobody ever.

You don't need to stun AND debuff AND all that other stuff, you only need to do one of them. Once either of those countermeasures is in effect, just burn her down. She has very little protection and HP, and a couple good, solid hits will take her out.

I have never read a convincing reason to scale down Rey's damage. What I've heard has always been couched in terms of "She dodges too much," which is a problem with her combined with Dooku or Luminara as a leader; or that "She lasts through taunts," which is a problem with her combined with the Royal Guard especially, but other taunt-based tanks in general. The arguments generally contain the fallacy of complaining about her in a vacuum, as if their own team composition is irrelevant. You get to do stuff! You get to see your opponent's roster BEFORE fighting them! Set your lineup accordingly. Don't try to just brute-force your one-size-fits-all team.

"V1p3rdyn4sty;428349" wrote:

"Vaders_Underwear;428346" wrote:

"V1p3rdyn4sty;428340" wrote:

"M9silent;428324" wrote:

"V1p3rdyn4sty;428314" wrote:
Any player who is calling for a Rey nerf. Please post your roster.

I hate Rey, and I use her. Face her all the time. She's #1 DPS for a reason. She needs to be toned a bit, in my opinion of course, damage or speed.

Oh, and I have most of the heroes in game. Starred and leveled. What does that even matter for?

I think you're wrong. She is just a top attacker. Really the only one left besides Leia. As for posting a roster. It's the best way to help someone out, by seeing their pieces of the puzzle.

I have no problem beating her 90%+ of the time. But her 12k hits are just plain ridiculous.

Fine. Nerf her.

I expanded upon my post. But yes, her DPS is silly.

"Greg1920;428354" wrote:

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"Greg1920;428303" wrote:

"Vaders_Underwear;428252" wrote:

"Greg1920;428241" wrote:

"Vaders_Underwear;428225" wrote:

"Greg1920;428224" wrote:
What's the issue? She does nothing else well. She is relatively easy to kill. She has high impact early and diminished impact after that.

Kill her or stun her. Proc (I assume your using gear X toons to fight gear X Rey) keeps her from one shorting your toons on her first turn. If she gets a second one that is your fault.

Yes, because it is always just that simple...

It is that simple

Or you aren't being beaten by Rey but by auto taunts, evasion leads or other Tanky/support abilities.

Now the story changes...

No the story doesn't change. If you have a problem with RG then RG should be who you are asking for the nerf.

And she is still easy to deal with.

Rey hits you gaining foresight. You hit RG with your Rey gaining foresight. You use GS basic to counter foresight, use QG assist to remove Rey Proc. use RG to stun or damage Rey to prep for kill blow. Use Phasma victory march. GS assist or Rey flurry = dead Rey. If stuff dodges you are still okay.

If your Rey attacks first it's even easier.

The story changed when you tried to retcon your original argument.

I don't see the story changing at all.

She's easy to deal with. You just kill her or stun her. Seems like the same story to me.

That's the same for every hero. Stun or kill. Uh...no kidding

"Greg1920;428354" wrote:
I don't see the story changing at all.

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"Greg1920;428241" wrote:
It is that simple

Or you aren't being beaten by Rey but by auto taunts, evasion leads or other Tanky/support abilities.

Or this, or that, or this....or maybe it isn't.

See my post above i think a few miss the problem. Rey is fine but the combo with Dodge leads like Old Ben or Dooku kinda break things.

A change to how these work by saying bens dodge applies to Jedi and Dooku to sith would definitely work to lessen the problem with Rey.

Ticks me off my old school fotp used to be as strong a Rey just not as fast nor had foresight but he had health to handle the shots. One gets nerfed along with others but they allowed this hero to do as much damage as she does..... kinda makes it hard for people not to use her.

Expected protection update to lessen large numbers in arena.

"Greg1920;428361" wrote:


i put the second part in instead of saying if you have difficulty dealing with Rey you suck at the game.

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"AnonymousHamster;428362" wrote:
The fact that she's easy to kill has nothing to do with her hitting way too hard. If you didn't precraft she's one shotting a few toons

How is this an issue? If someone's squad is in gear two of three levels higher than yours, then they should smack you around. Just like an underleveled DPS would have issues taking down a gear X RG with 50K+ in health in protection.

I've never seen my Rey one shot someone in equal level gear. However, I have seen squads that probably had a combined 200K in health and protection, so nerfing the DPS isn't really something I think would make things better.

Bigger issue: Gear scaling gets completely out of hand past gear 8. Characters are gaining thousands of both health and protection from gear 8>9, 9>10, 10>11. This scaling is compounded by the precrafting debacle.

If we want the game balanced around gear 11, other DPS needs to be brought up to Rey/Leia level.

If we want the game to be balanced around gear 8/9, Rey and Leia need to be brought down to everyone else's level.

If we want to game to be balanced at all, precrafting needs to be addressed and gear 9/10/11 needs to be more readily available.

She needs to be buffed!

"Parad1sel;428506" wrote:
Rey is fine. If you aren't killing her first then you're doing it wrong.

This generic response has already been addressed in this thread.